Waiting lists - 458 Spider / Aventador

[kbf1981]

I know the obvious answer is to go into the dealership and ask....but what's the likely waiting list if you:

1) Went into the Ferrari dealership and said you wanted a 458 Spider, happy to put down 10% deposit to book it
2) Or doing the same for a Lamborghini Aventador?

I really like both cars and I was guessing it'd be 18 months...anyone know better?

[gko88]

aventador- a few production delays so end of 2012 if you order now i'd say- i ordered mine at geneva not having been a previous lambo owner and am scheduled for q2 2012. 458 spider- launch in frankfurt but won't start customer deliveries till summer 2012 and rhd till late q3 2012, so expect mid to late 2013 i'd imagine if you order one now with no prior ferrari ownership history.

[UH-Matt]

I enquired about 458 Spider and was told an estimate of later in 2013 for a new order - £20k deposit required right away.

[Webber3]

gko88 said:

so expect mid to late 2013 i'd imagine if you order one now with no prior ferrari ownership history.

After seeing the latest pictures, I've been seriously thinking about buying a 458 spider. I know it's a V8 for V12 money, but if the cost of ownership is less or on par with a 430 then it could make sense in the short term to spend more.

However, I've got no history with Ferrari and two years is a long time to wait. A lot can happen in that time, losing interest in the car for one.

A dealer just offered me VIP Ferrari stand passes at Frankfurt, so it might be worth taking them up on that at least.

[kbf1981]

To be honest, and I know this is a bit silly given both cars cost the same as nice houses....the Aventador seems like much better value. £250k for 217mph and 700hp vs. £200k for 198mph and 560hp in a Gallardo competitor.

The 458 looks so sexy though. I don't think I'd want to wait 2yrs, but it's a really sexy car.

I'll pop down on the weekend or tomorrow and have a chat.

[johnnyreggae]

kbf1981 said:

Aventador seems like much better value. £250k for 217mph and 700hp vs. £200k for 198mph and 560hp

This makes you sound like a 12 year old schoolboy.....

[woppum]

That makes you sound like you a flamingo farmer from Boston.

[70proof]

kbf1981 said:

I know this is a bit silly given both cars cost the same as nice houses....

nice houses??????? that money will buy you a shed in london if u are lucky!

[kbf1981]

johnnyreggae said:

kbf1981 said:

Aventador seems like much better value. £250k for 217mph and 700hp vs. £200k for 198mph and 560hp

This makes you sound like a 12 year old schoolboy.....

You're obviously under the mistaken impression I care about your viewpoint.

70proof said:

kbf1981 said:

I know this is a bit silly given both cars cost the same as nice houses....

nice houses??????? that money will buy you a shed in london if u are lucky!

I'm from Manchester - £200k can buy you a 4 bed in some locations, and a 2 bed apartment in the City Centre. London is not really representative of the UK property market lol.

[MDahmen]

I tend to agree with kbf on that one, nothing to do with 12 year old schoolboy ...
A 458 is quite pricey, that's about 60k more than a 430 was (I believe that's roughly the order of magnitude) , and that's not just normal inflation
Ferrari increased prices as they - I believe said was their strategy - and now a specced spider is not that far from a base aventador, which is generally accepted to be one level up

[bad company]

UH-Matt said:

I enquired about 458 Spider and was told an estimate of later in 2013 for a new order - £20k deposit required right away.

I should get in quick if you want one. Now the car has been seen I suspect that more deposits will be put down. There was a wait list of 2 years for early 430's.

[shanes]

there where 3 Aventador's for sale in Germany at the moment so wait time of zero :-}}}

[AL001]

MDahmen said:

I tend to agree with kbf on that one, nothing to do with 12 year old schoolboy ...
A 458 is quite pricey, that's about 60k more than a 430 was (I believe that's roughly the order of magnitude) , and that's not just normal inflation
Ferrari increased prices as they - I believe said was their strategy - and now a specced spider is not that far from a base aventador, which is generally accepted to be one level up

430 with CCB's standard in 2008, listed at £138k. 458 (standard CCB's) list starts at £169k (a 1/3 less than the Aventador). A £30k hike. Obviously both 458 and Aventador can get quickly more expensive if delving into their "personalisation" options, few are essential items though.

Using KFB's comparison, then the 458 is a bargain being within 10% of top speed for 33% less cost......Though I think most buyers use a more sophisticated set of criteria when choosing between them..."Which one goes best with my medallion? Aventador Sir."

[franki68]

I'm just laughing at the use of the word 'value' when talking about a £200,000 car.

[RevHappy]

franki68 said:

I'm just laughing at the use of the word 'value' when talking about a £200,000 car.

It helps folks sleep at night....

[jdw1234]

johnnyreggae said:

kbf1981 said:

Aventador seems like much better value. £250k for 217mph and 700hp vs. £200k for 198mph and 560hp

This makes you sound like a 12 year old schoolboy.....

If everyone acted like a grown up, Ferrari and Lamborghini wouldn't sell many cars!

[baz1985]

kbf1981 said:

I'm from Manchester - £200k can buy you a 4 bed in some locations, and a 2 bed apartment in the City Centre. London is not really representative of the UK property market lol.

It'd buy you nothing in Hale/Prestbury/Alderley Edge.

[UH-Matt]

MDahmen said:

I tend to agree with kbf on that one, nothing to do with 12 year old schoolboy ...
A 458 is quite pricey, that's about 60k more than a 430 was (I believe that's roughly the order of magnitude) , and that's not just normal inflation
Ferrari increased prices as they - I believe said was their strategy - and now a specced spider is not that far from a base aventador, which is generally accepted to be one level up

You can't compare a fully spec'd car against a base spec of another....

Both Lambo and Ferrari have put prices up against previous models, but look what has happened in the time between those models, inflation for one has gone nuts. No doubt the cost to produce the car compared to the previous model due to both inflation and technology within them is much higher too.

[DayTrader]

baz1985 said:

kbf1981 said:

I'm from Manchester - £200k can buy you a 4 bed in some locations, and a 2 bed apartment in the City Centre. London is not really representative of the UK property market lol.

It'd buy you nothing in Hale/Prestbury/Alderley Edge.

So what? The OP didn't say it could! He said "in some locations".

His point is it's a lot of money for a car unless money is really no object. When thinking of making a purchase it is always sensible to compare and have a reality check against other assets or you can lose all perspective.

[Jonty355]

jdw1234 said:

If everyone acted like a grown up, Ferrari and Lamborghini wouldn't sell many cars!

Exactly!!!

What sort of grown up would buy a car that is uneconomical, has a small boot, only 2 seats, costs a lot to buy, costs a lot to run.....

You'd have to be mad.... And thats why I love them!