How much do you have to earn to afford these cars?
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Don't know if here has been another thread like this but I am fascinated when I see certain cars on the road and I wonder how much you would have to earn to buy a new one.
I have chosen 5 'goto' cars in different price brackets and put forward some opinions myself of the top of my head:
FOCUS RS - Single 30 year old engineer earning 40k a year.
BMW M3 - Single IT contractor 35 years old earning £400 a day
PORSCHE 911 - Married 50 yr old Doctor earning £150k a year , Wife also earning £50k +
PORSCHE 911 Turbo - 50 yr old City Trader £150k a year plus bonuses of at least the same again. Wife also working
FERRARI 458 Italia - Successful company owner or Lottery winner!
Thoughts?
I have chosen 5 'goto' cars in different price brackets and put forward some opinions myself of the top of my head:
FOCUS RS - Single 30 year old engineer earning 40k a year.
BMW M3 - Single IT contractor 35 years old earning £400 a day
PORSCHE 911 - Married 50 yr old Doctor earning £150k a year , Wife also earning £50k +
PORSCHE 911 Turbo - 50 yr old City Trader £150k a year plus bonuses of at least the same again. Wife also working
FERRARI 458 Italia - Successful company owner or Lottery winner!
Thoughts?
272BHP said:
Don't know if here has been another thread like this but I am fascinated when I see certain cars on the road and I wonder how much you would have to earn to buy a new one.
I have chosen 5 'goto' cars in different price brackets and put forward some opinions myself of the top of my head:
FOCUS RS - Single 30 year old engineer earning 40k a year.
BMW M3 - Single IT contractor 35 years old earning £400 a day
PORSCHE 911 - Married 50 yr old Doctor earning £150k a year , Wife also earning £50k +
PORSCHE 911 Turbo - 50 yr old City Trader £150k a year plus bonuses of at least the same again. Wife also working
FERRARI 458 Italia - Successful company owner or Lottery winner!
Thoughts?
Depends doesnt it - on how much someone wants something.I have chosen 5 'goto' cars in different price brackets and put forward some opinions myself of the top of my head:
FOCUS RS - Single 30 year old engineer earning 40k a year.
BMW M3 - Single IT contractor 35 years old earning £400 a day
PORSCHE 911 - Married 50 yr old Doctor earning £150k a year , Wife also earning £50k +
PORSCHE 911 Turbo - 50 yr old City Trader £150k a year plus bonuses of at least the same again. Wife also working
FERRARI 458 Italia - Successful company owner or Lottery winner!
Thoughts?
A 911 comes easy to the doctor profile but you could get an Admin Assistant on 18k living with their parents with no other out goings apart from £850 a month on their 911 & Fuel..?
Generally i have seen that half way up the wealth ladder people become savvy and start buying Hondas and the like, where as either side of the loaded bracket you either do it 'because you can' or you do it because you absolutely must have a 911 and to hell with living..
crofty1984 said:
When I was 22 I was on 19k a year and bought a Porsche 911 carrera 3.2. Now I'm on about half as much again and drive round in a 10 year old Clio with a duff wheel bearing.
It's all about what your outgoings are and how much you're willing to compromise on other things.
I think insurance has risen a bit since you were 22. A 911 carrera would set me back around £4000p.a I reckon and I'm 21. Affording the car isn't the difficult part at my age, its insuring the bloody thing. It's all about what your outgoings are and how much you're willing to compromise on other things.

Edit: Upon reflection I should take these comments back. I have a friend who pays £3500p.a on his £1000 clio 1.8, if you had no claims and a good wage it would be possible to run that car. Man points for buying that at 22!!
Edited by StottyZr on Thursday 25th August 18:33
StottyZr said:
crofty1984 said:
When I was 22 I was on 19k a year and bought a Porsche 911 carrera 3.2. Now I'm on about half as much again and drive round in a 10 year old Clio with a duff wheel bearing.
It's all about what your outgoings are and how much you're willing to compromise on other things.
I think insurance has risen a bit since you were 22. A 911 carrera would set me back around £4000p.a I reckon and I'm 21. Affording the car isn't the difficult part at my age, its insuring the bloody thing. It's all about what your outgoings are and how much you're willing to compromise on other things.

Edit: Upon reflection I should take these comments back. I have a friend who pays £3500p.a on his £1000 clio 1.8, if you had no claims and a good wage it would be possible to run that car. Man points for buying that at 22!!
Edited by StottyZr on Thursday 25th August 18:33

crofty1984 said:
It's all about what your outgoings are and how much you're willing to compromise on other things.
Nail. head. HitBefore I was married, mortgaged and had 3 kids I could afford newish cars and brand new bikes.
Now we have one 5 year old people carrier, a bike I bought new 9 years ago and a dull company car.
But I am only 6 numbers away from my dream garage.

I know people on £60k+ who drive 'cheap' cars because they are saving for deposits for a house.
It's purely about how much money is left at the end of the month after making all your financial commitments; low commitments on an average wage leaves more than a good salary with a mortgage, kids, expesive hobbies.
It's purely about how much money is left at the end of the month after making all your financial commitments; low commitments on an average wage leaves more than a good salary with a mortgage, kids, expesive hobbies.
my original thread was obviously generalisations. they also were made assuming people were doing the normal thing i.e. buying or owning houses commensurate with their incomes and having 2.4 kids etc etc.
My thinking is that this would realistically be the 'least' they would have to earn to be able to afford the car and not be under financial pressure.
Of course we see loads of people 'punching above their weight' and buying cars that they struggle to pay for because they want it so much - most of those people are on this forum I guess!
My thinking is that this would realistically be the 'least' they would have to earn to be able to afford the car and not be under financial pressure.
Of course we see loads of people 'punching above their weight' and buying cars that they struggle to pay for because they want it so much - most of those people are on this forum I guess!
Try Adrian flux for insurance if your young I paid £940 to insure my 911 at 24.
It's also very dependent on how many miles you do. Absolutely agree with everyone else here regarding the tighter you get the more you make. I promised myself a DBS when I earned a certain amount, now I'm here I just can't justify the expense!
It's also very dependent on how many miles you do. Absolutely agree with everyone else here regarding the tighter you get the more you make. I promised myself a DBS when I earned a certain amount, now I'm here I just can't justify the expense!
272BHP said:
my original thread was obviously generalisations. they also were made assuming people were doing the normal thing i.e. buying or owning houses commensurate with their incomes and having 2.4 kids
Of course because they want it so much - most of those people are on this forum I guess!
but you said in the OP that they were single? Sorry but it makes a BIG difference Of course because they want it so much - most of those people are on this forum I guess!
I'm a finance contractor on a fairly decent day rate, but drive a Skoda Felicia as a work hack and a 7 year old Z4 as a fun car. Its difficult to make a correlation as peoples priorities differ.
I for example, hope to be retiring to France at a ridiculously young age.
If I was living more in the now though, then an M3 on contract hire would be pretty spot on.
I for example, hope to be retiring to France at a ridiculously young age.
If I was living more in the now though, then an M3 on contract hire would be pretty spot on.
I could easily cut £1000 off my housing costs in a month, to add to the current £300ish car budget, so what could you afford to drive with £1300 a month?
£15600 a year on a car, but give up my cottage and land? Nope i'll stick to the Focus as a daily and trying to skrimp enough together to pull the scooby back together.
£15600 a year on a car, but give up my cottage and land? Nope i'll stick to the Focus as a daily and trying to skrimp enough together to pull the scooby back together.

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