How much wobble have you got ?
How much wobble have you got ?
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uglymug

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575 posts

265 months

Thursday 25th August 2011
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Ever since I bought my 350i I have had steering wheel wobble. I find it a bit much, but after totaly rebuilding front suspension it has not gone away. Had suspension set up with local laser tracking company. All wheels balanced etc but still theres a good degree of wobble. Theres no play in steering rack as it flew thru the MOT with no advisories, but does have a slight waer in the bulkhead beasring. But I do not think this is the cause. Is there an inherent wobble in these cars due to old geometry and design or do I have an overlooked problem.

pjtvr390se

134 posts

229 months

Thursday 25th August 2011
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None that I've noticed, are you sure that your tyres are ok, have they been sitting around for a long time or are they distorted/starting to break up due to damage caused by pot holes.

Trickie Dickie

2,399 posts

264 months

Thursday 25th August 2011
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I would also check everything to do with the wheels and tyres first

400SE Dave

1,306 posts

201 months

Thursday 25th August 2011
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Mine also has a wobble, not too bad and I have also had tracking/balancing etc done.

I think it is the bulkhead bearing, I am sure there was a post about changing one recently (what have You done in the garage thread I think). Considering changing mine as it will at least eliminate it as a cause

EDIT: Look here http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Edited by 400SE Dave on Thursday 25th August 21:28

Campbell

2,500 posts

313 months

Thursday 25th August 2011
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Does your steering collum have any bushes in it to cause the wobble, my Taimar had magor wobble at any speed due to worren bushes but the SEAC has never had a prob, but i did have to have the rack rebuilt at there was play at the end of the rack in the vertical causing an MOT failure but no wobble at any speed.
I would go through the full steering setup and check all wheel bearings and bushes for any movement.
Good luck

Cambelt

ROOODBOY

4,658 posts

225 months

Friday 26th August 2011
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400SE Dave said:
Mine also has a wobble, not too bad and I have also had tracking/balancing etc done.

I think it is the bulkhead bearing, I am sure there was a post about changing one recently (what have You done in the garage thread I think). Considering changing mine as it will at least eliminate it as a cause
Yes, that was me.

I have a 1989 350I.
I have recently replaced all of the front suspension bushes, ball joints, track rod ends, roll bar bushes and links and checked the wheel bearings.

I also fitted the bulkhead bush and bearing kit from TVRCarparts, which made the biggest single difference yet, but I still have some steering column shake.

Next on my list is to check the mounting nuts / studs where the column bolts to the body near the steering wheel.
Not sure what else it could be!






dixiebabes

3,111 posts

254 months

Friday 26th August 2011
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Sorry to put forward the obvious but are the wheels balanced? the weights can fall off ya know!

Dix

ROOODBOY

4,658 posts

225 months

Friday 26th August 2011
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Good point.
But the OP did say he'd had his balanced.

Mine is more when I go down a bumpy road the column shakes, rather than a 'rotational' vibration.

Hard to describe in words as these things can vary so much!

dixiebabes

3,111 posts

254 months

Friday 26th August 2011
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ROOODBOY said:
Good point.
But the OP did say he'd had his balanced.

Mine is more when I go down a bumpy road the column shakes, rather than a 'rotational' vibration.

Hard to describe in words as these things can vary so much!
Aye but they can fall off without you knowing worth checking again!!! by the way mine bounces around at the collumn brace all the time i thought that was part of the fun!!

ROOODBOY

4,658 posts

225 months

Friday 26th August 2011
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True, they can fall off, and tyres can go out of shape / wear unevenly.

I think it's probably just a bit of a TVRism, so I think I'll just be putting up with it!

dixiebabes

3,111 posts

254 months

Friday 26th August 2011
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ROOODBOY said:
True, they can fall off, and tyres can go out of shape / wear unevenly.

I think it's probably just a bit of a TVRism, so I think I'll just be putting up with it!
Cant be too kmuch to worry about i agree with ROODBOY ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Dix

S1_RS

782 posts

229 months

Friday 26th August 2011
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I'm no TVR expert but I believe I'm right in saying they're based on Ford hardware in many cases. A lot of Fords suffer from similar symptoms which appear to be out of balance wheels due to the state of the front wheel to disc fitment. It only takes a small amount of corrosion on the drive flange/hub behind the disc to cause a problem. The solution is to whip off the disc and give the flange and rear face of the disc a good going over with a wire brush attachment in a drill.

dixiebabes

3,111 posts

254 months

Friday 26th August 2011
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Every wheel is a dynamic when the tyres wear away the wheel balance suffers. not a great deal but you notice it eventually and thats what counts!

Dix

convert

3,757 posts

248 months

Friday 26th August 2011
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http://www.tvrwedgepages.co.uk/maint_steering.html

The above modification is the BEST thing I've ever done on my 350i.

The difference is amazing.


Trickie Dickie

2,399 posts

264 months

Friday 26th August 2011
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Try swapping the wheels from front to back to eliminate wheel balance etc etc

I have 1 wheel that is slightly out of true and has to keep at the back

Trickie

dixiebabes

3,111 posts

254 months

Friday 26th August 2011
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convert said:
http://www.tvrwedgepages.co.uk/maint_steering.html

The above modification is the BEST thing I've ever done on my 350i.

The difference is amazing.
I want one of those!!!!!

Dix

adam quantrill

11,679 posts

272 months

Friday 26th August 2011
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What wheels do you have - if (for example) you ar running Cerbie wheels with larger centre hole then they can sit slightly off-centre. So they may be balanced on the machine but not when put on the car.

balance (or a wheel ding) is the most likely cause, there is now inherent wobble because of the suspension design, I have done enough miles and used enough sets of tyres and wheels to know the difference.

ROOODBOY

4,658 posts

225 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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adam quantrill said:
if (for example) you ar running Cerbie wheels with larger centre hole then they can sit slightly off-centre.
nono

Should really get spigot rings in there to take the strain off the wheel studs, if that's the case.



Edited by ROOODBOY on Saturday 27th August 00:22

1 Finger Bandit

621 posts

241 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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Dix, contact Hotty if you want a ready made bulkhead kit. I made one for his 350i but he never used it. Cheers Shaun

E Ponym

1,233 posts

297 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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Has the car been sat unused for a while?

Tyres can develop flat bits if they stay on the same bit of concrete for ages, they take a set - and never really go back into shape properly. Balancing should have sorted most of this out but there is still the flat bit as you drive along.

Jack the car up, spin the wheel with one hand and feel if it is properly round.

Russ