gps lap timer? help!
gps lap timer? help!
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speedybarsteward

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5 posts

181 months

Friday 26th August 2011
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i recently took a trip to a well known racewear shop and was shown a gps lap timer it was called the qstarz bt-q1000ex has any one had any experience using this? it looks great on paper but i wanted to speak to some one who has actually used it before i buy one. has any one had any problems? has any one been told off for using them at trackdays?

GC8

19,910 posts

219 months

Friday 26th August 2011
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Look at the sampling rate. If it only updates once per second it cant accurately time tenths and hundredths. This is the achilles heel of most cheaper GPS-based timers.

speedybarsteward

Original Poster:

5 posts

181 months

Friday 26th August 2011
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it is 5hz which i believe is 5 times per second and it is 140 quid plus vat would you be worried about it being so cheap?

gtdc

4,259 posts

312 months

Friday 26th August 2011
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I got one off GPR and it's very pleasing.

Paul_M3

2,531 posts

214 months

Friday 26th August 2011
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I have the RaceChrono (free) software on my Nokia phone, and an external Q-Starz 5hz GPS sensor. I think you can get their 10Hz version for about £50 now too.

It works very well, and you can even get add an OBD2 bluetooth unit to log rpm, throttle position, etc at the same time. All this can be used in further free software to produce a graphic overlay for your videos.

This could be a cheaper alternative to the dedicated track day package you linked to.

I'm at work at the moment, but I can link an example of my result when I get home so you can see what it looks like.

PS

Melindi, although timing is forbidden, do you have any problem with people using data logging timers such as these? (Assuming they aren't placed so you can see lap times as you are driving round)

modzila

2 posts

181 months

Friday 26th August 2011
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Paul_M3 said:
I have the RaceChrono (free) software on my Nokia phone, and an external Q-Starz 5hz GPS sensor. I think you can get their 10Hz version for about £50 now too.

It works very well, and you can even get add an OBD2 bluetooth unit to log rpm, throttle position, etc at the same time. All this can be used in further free software to produce a graphic overlay for your videos.

This could be a cheaper alternative to the dedicated track day package you linked to.

I'm at work at the moment, but I can link an example of my result when I get home so you can see what it looks like.

PS

Melindi, although timing is forbidden, do you have any problem with people using data logging timers such as these? (Assuming they aren't placed so you can see lap times as you are driving round)
Would you be able to expand on this solution; I am looking to record my first lap on Brands and needs something affordable. not looking for HD, but would like to record throttle, GPS position and some 640*480 (ore better) video

TIA

Paul_M3

2,531 posts

214 months

Friday 26th August 2011
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Modzilla,

Sorry, that package I talked about is just for recording the data only.

I record the video seperately using a normal camcorder, and then overlay the graphics myself in some editing software.

gtdc

4,259 posts

312 months

Friday 26th August 2011
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I use a VBox all the time. It might have timing capabilities which people might look at when they get home but they're not sticking beacons out, standing on the wall with a stopwatch or using a pitboard to signal times.

Melindi

Paul_M3

2,531 posts

214 months

Friday 26th August 2011
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Just to give you an idea, here's a video I did using the Racechrono phone software, and Racechrono2avi graphics generating software. Both of which are free to obtain.

You can create your own 'dashboard' using any pictures you like, position the needles, set their range etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmVFK3EmQ3s Watch in HD to see the graphics more clearly.

(I know the lap is very untidy, especially at 'Oggies'. In my defence, the tyres were on their last legs. In fact, the front left blew later in the day!)

Chris Wilson

122 posts

284 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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Race Render is little known in the UK, ( http://www.racerender.com/RR2/Features.html ),but if you have an ecu or logger that will output data in .csv format you can create totally custom displays and synch with video as overlays. It's very cheap, works perfectly with my Motec software, and with Race Technology stuff, as well as countless others. The video can be from any source. I used a Go Pro camera, but in hindsight a camera that time stamps the video would make synching child's play. There is a new camera that used the Go Pro engine, but allows separate microphone input, and optional time stamping, plus has a small screen to see what you are recording, and a laser dot for aiming. Bit more expensive, but as I said, in hindsight...

Here's an overlay on some footage from my saloon at Oulton. It was the first time of trying the Race Render software, so the graphics are basic, you can be a lot more creative than this smile

http://www.gatesgarth.com/oulton2.wmv It's a 170 meg file, but it's in full HD.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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Another vote here for Racechrono (free) used with a Qstarz BT-Q818XT 10HZ receiver (£50) and edited together with Racerender

speedybarsteward

Original Poster:

5 posts

181 months

Thursday 1st September 2011
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just got one of the gps lap timers from gpr. great product! reliable and great cheap data thanks for all the advice guys!

spyderman8

1,748 posts

185 months

Saturday 3rd September 2011
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speedybarsteward said:
just got one of the gps lap timers from gpr.
Could you be more specific, ie: make and model. I keep trying to buy a second hand DL1 but a combined data/video system is more useful - just chuffin expensive!

speedybarsteward

Original Poster:

5 posts

181 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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the qstarz bt-q1000ex i spoke to tom at grand prix race wear he can tell you all about it his number is 01327 855585