Woodford the demise [second round]
Woodford the demise [second round]
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Mojocvh

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16,837 posts

291 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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http://www2.ppauctions.com/auction.php?thisPage=1&...

No matter what your take on Nimrod MR4 this really shows that the UK, as an aircraft manufacturing nation, is all but done in, and the trend will not be reversed.

dr_gn

16,924 posts

213 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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Mojocvh said:
http://www2.ppauctions.com/auction.php?thisPage=1&...

No matter what your take on Nimrod MR4 this really shows that the UK, as an aircraft manufacturing nation, is all but done in, and the trend will not be reversed.
Including or excluding the 4 snooker tables?

I can assure you, you wouldn't prevent the decline of any aerospance manufacturing capability worthy of the name by keeping any of that lot.

perdu

4,885 posts

228 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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dr_gn said:
Mojocvh said:
http://www2.ppauctions.com/auction.php?thisPage=1&...

No matter what your take on Nimrod MR4 this really shows that the UK, as an aircraft manufacturing nation, is all but done in, and the trend will not be reversed.
Including or excluding the 4 snooker tables?

I can assure you, you wouldn't prevent the decline of any aerospance manufacturing capability worthy of the name by keeping any of that lot.
I'm more concerned that a state of the art-ish manufacturing aerospace company has ancient imperial 0-1" Mitutoyo micrometers to sell.

Not concerned about them being Mitutoyo though, my own Mitutoyos are a superb instruments, simply that 30 plus years after decimalisation BAE still has several old imperial measuring instruments hanging about.

How can the local car boot sales have thrived if BAE are hanging on to old tat frown


Shame they are out of the game though, real shame


dr_gn

16,924 posts

213 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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perdu said:
dr_gn said:
Mojocvh said:
http://www2.ppauctions.com/auction.php?thisPage=1&...

No matter what your take on Nimrod MR4 this really shows that the UK, as an aircraft manufacturing nation, is all but done in, and the trend will not be reversed.
Including or excluding the 4 snooker tables?

I can assure you, you wouldn't prevent the decline of any aerospance manufacturing capability worthy of the name by keeping any of that lot.
I'm more concerned that a state of the art-ish manufacturing aerospace company has ancient imperial 0-1" Mitutoyo micrometers to sell.

Not concerned about them being Mitutoyo though, my own Mitutoyos are a superb instruments, simply that 30 plus years after decimalisation BAE still has several old imperial measuring instruments hanging about.

How can the local car boot sales have thrived if BAE are hanging on to old tat frown


Shame they are out of the game though, real shame
That's lot's just junk Perdu - most of it's from another century and is probably symbolic of the whole Nimrod debacle.

In terms of manufacturing technology, BAE aren't out of the game by any means.

perdu

4,885 posts

228 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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dr_gn said:
perdu said:
dr_gn said:
Mojocvh said:
http://www2.ppauctions.com/auction.php?thisPage=1&...

No matter what your take on Nimrod MR4 this really shows that the UK, as an aircraft manufacturing nation, is all but done in, and the trend will not be reversed.
Including or excluding the 4 snooker tables?

I can assure you, you wouldn't prevent the decline of any aerospance manufacturing capability worthy of the name by keeping any of that lot.
I'm more concerned that a state of the art-ish manufacturing aerospace company has ancient imperial 0-1" Mitutoyo micrometers to sell.

Not concerned about them being Mitutoyo though, my own Mitutoyos are a superb instruments, simply that 30 plus years after decimalisation BAE still has several old imperial measuring instruments hanging about.

How can the local car boot sales have thrived if BAE are hanging on to old tat frown


Shame they are out of the game though, real shame
That's lot's just junk Perdu - most of it's from another century and is probably symbolic of the whole Nimrod debacle.

In terms of manufacturing technology, BAE aren't out of the game by any means.
Quite true and TBH my own micrometers are still Imperial but I only work for "me" and have only needs to measure old car parts which were built Imperial.

But I was surprised that they hadn't ditched them before, as you say, Nimrod era tat no longer needed on voyage.

I wouldnt mind a plasma cutter but I s'spect they need three phase power, shan't be bidding smile

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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Bearing in mind that the original design of the Comet dates back 60 years or more, I'd be amazed if there weren't things on the Nimrod that needed to be measured in inches.

Richjam

318 posts

217 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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Probably so but most people convert imperial to metric these days unless your from the USA....

Although we always seem to talk in thou's when it comes to small measurements even though we measure in metric. Guess old habits die hard.

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

277 months

Sunday 28th August 2011
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Richjam said:
Probably so but most people convert imperial to metric these days unless your from the USA....

Although we always seem to talk in thou's when it comes to small measurements even though we measure in metric. Guess old habits die hard.
I'm bi-lingual, I work in both Imperial and Metric. But, in over thirty years in the construction game, I've only ever found people using metric in metres and millimetres, in fact the ONLY people that I've found that don't use metres and millimetres, but use centimetres, are TEACHERS!

Get with the beat, Teach, and teach in what you're pupils will be using, if they're fortunate enough to find a job.

tr7v8

7,620 posts

257 months

Sunday 28th August 2011
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Most aircraft are still imperial certainly were when I worked on them. So why not imperial Micrometers? I suspect Airbus is metric but I'd guess boeing are still imperial.

andym1603

1,885 posts

201 months

Sunday 28th August 2011
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perdu said:
I wouldnt mind a plasma cutter but I s'spect they need three phase power, shan't be bidding smile
Lot 96 Plasma cutter. Says 50amp 240volt.

Ian Lancs

1,158 posts

195 months

Sunday 28th August 2011
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perdu said:
I'm more concerned that a state of the art-ish manufacturing aerospace company has ancient imperial 0-1" Mitutoyo micrometers to sell.
Ever thought that the "ancient" kit could be just that - sat in stores somewhere since ancient times? If its like other industries you're not allowed to dispose of build equipment until after the product is out of service.

perdu

4,885 posts

228 months

Sunday 28th August 2011
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Ian Lancs said:
perdu said:
I'm more concerned that a state of the art-ish manufacturing aerospace company has ancient imperial 0-1" Mitutoyo micrometers to sell.
Ever thought that the "ancient" kit could be just that - sat in stores somewhere since ancient times? If its like other industries you're not allowed to dispose of build equipment until after the product is out of service.
Yes

I may be daft

but not that blimmin daft

But I was a toolmaker for long before I enjoyed my recent career and I was quite capable of working with new kit and converting to metricality as were all my colleagues.

And this was '78

Build equipment? I would have thought that was the jigs and machine tooling

Which BAe got well wrong when they rebuilt the Nimmie's wings I understand. But which I am willing (and hopeful) that someone can tell me I'm misinformed. I am NOT inclined to slag off Brit industries automatically anyway, let alone the firm that built most of the aircraft I grew up loving.

Iwont be buying the plasma machine anyway, it should be used in a proper industrial, making stuff all day, scenario.

If I bought it I'd a: have no room for it and b: just show off with mates with it, wasting good steel [johncleese](I know my place)[/johncleese]

frown

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Monday 29th August 2011
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I work with an American factory so spend most of my days converting imperial to metric and vice versa, but I always try to make that conversion once, and only at the end when I'm doing the calculations, to avoid rounding errors; and I'd guess engineers would do something similar to avoid mistakes. So it's quite useful to have the imperial measuring stuff around.


Tango13

10,046 posts

205 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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mrmaggit said:
I'm bi-lingual, I work in both Imperial and Metric. But, in over thirty years in the construction game, I've only ever found people using metric in metres and millimetres, in fact the ONLY people that I've found that don't use metres and millimetres, but use centimetres, are TEACHERS!

Get with the beat, Teach, and teach in what you're pupils will be using, if they're fortunate enough to find a job.
I was told many years ago that the centimetre isn't recognised as a unit of distance measurement, not sure how true that is though.

In 25 years of engineering i've never seen a drawing dimensioned in cm, in fact the only thing I can think of that is measured in centimetres is the volume of an internal combustion engine.