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Thanks to carl for sorting out properly the hot start problem that has given me the usual embarrassing problems that i no quite a few of us have suffered from.He also warned me about the problems that he has experienced when moving battery to the boot and fuse box behind the seat.Anyway thank you carl yet again.
VictorMeldrew said:
As someone just about to move the fuse box I'd be even more interested!
From what I remember about the discussion, was that the wires from the loom to the fusebox are coiled and taped together and held in a 'tight shape'. He said that by 'uncurling' and straightening up the wires will almost certainly cause wires to break / fail and would be a complete f**king nightmare to find (let alone fix) the problems when they *did* occur. His view was that it was it was a risk not worth taking, as you get enough room when you just move the battery. As he knows a $hitload more about TVR wiring than I do, I decided to heed his advice.
Hope this helps
Nosh
PS - VictorM - why not ring and ask him BEFORE you take the plunge? He is a VERY helpful (& cheery) chappie.
Nosh said:
He said that by 'uncurling' and straightening up the wires will almost certainly cause wires to break / fail and would be a complete f**king nightmare to find (let alone fix) the problems when they *did* occur.
Well my "1996" wires were perfect, if they are going to break when you move them then surely they need replacing anyway!! They get a lot more movement when people feet are next to them rather than being run along the transmission tunnel IMO...Each to there own but for me it was a no brainer.
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neal1980 said:
Well my "1996" wires were perfect, if they are going to break when you move them then surely they need replacing anyway!!
IIRC I don't think he meant 'they snap in front of your eyes' type of thing....it was more the wire breaking down inside the casing and you wouldn't be able to see the damage, if that makes sense.....As I said, he does know a lot more than most when it comes to cars eletrical systems, especially TVRs, so I will stick to just moving the battery (WHEN I have done dash, rear lights, etc etc etc
)Nosh
PS - car looking nice Neal!
Nosh said:
From what I remember about the discussion, was that the wires from the loom to the fusebox are coiled and taped together and held in a 'tight shape'. He said that by 'uncurling' and straightening up the wires will almost certainly cause wires to break / fail and would be a complete f**king nightmare to find (let alone fix) the problems when they *did* occur.
His view was that it was it was a risk not worth taking, as you get enough room when you just move the battery. As he knows a $hitload more about TVR wiring than I do, I decided to heed his advice.
Hope this helps
Nosh
PS - VictorM - why not ring and ask him BEFORE you take the plunge? He is a VERY helpful (& cheery) chappie.
Cheers Nosh.His view was that it was it was a risk not worth taking, as you get enough room when you just move the battery. As he knows a $hitload more about TVR wiring than I do, I decided to heed his advice.
Hope this helps
Nosh
PS - VictorM - why not ring and ask him BEFORE you take the plunge? He is a VERY helpful (& cheery) chappie.
I need to pull the fusebox out anyway to fit some new relays to change to two stages fans, so the wiring is going to be disturbed no matter what. Taking that logic a step further, having uncoiled the wiring to get the fusebox out, I'll be taking a further risk by coiling it up again to put it back, so I may as well move the fuesbox.
chelseawiggie1 said:
I think i would listen to every piece of advice Carl has to offer meself.
Exactly this. I spoke to him about moving the battery to the boot (work for him and probably lots of cash too) and he talked me out of it, exactly as he did you.The only person I'd let fiddle with electric on either of mine.
And if it makes any of us feel any better, he is also an expert of Ferrari electrics and says they make TVR electrics look top notch.
.Mark said:
And if it makes any of us feel any better, he is also an expert of Ferrari electrics and says they make TVR electrics look top notch.
This is like Carl Chinese whispers 
Not all TVRs have wiring that has been soaked due to water leaks, neither has every TVR got wiring that has been cooked. So you cannot say that moving a wiring loom is going to cause a problem on every TVR - it could well do on some.
Ferrari electrics were no better than any other Italian cars built in the same period. Most suffered from poor quality connections and sealing rather than badly thought out wiring. They are not like that today.
It is possible he is referring not to the coiling / looping of the main loom umbilical, but where there are twists of wire loops like jumpers near the fusebox & the diode fitments? Those bits are squeezed pretty sharp into 180deg turns and twisted very stiffly to get them 'flattish' within the looms (which several cross over the 2 sub looms into the fusebox IIRC).
Ribol said:
This is like Carl Chinese whispers
Not all TVRs have wiring that has been soaked due to water leaks, neither has every TVR got wiring that has been cooked. So you cannot say that moving a wiring loom is going to cause a problem on every TVR - it could well do on some.
Ferrari electrics were no better than any other Italian cars built in the same period. Most suffered from poor quality connections and sealing rather than badly thought out wiring. They are not like that today.
My TVR has been stored in a dehumidified and temperature controlled garage for the last 10 years, so I'm expecting my wiring to be better than the average, hence I'm not that worried. Not all TVRs have wiring that has been soaked due to water leaks, neither has every TVR got wiring that has been cooked. So you cannot say that moving a wiring loom is going to cause a problem on every TVR - it could well do on some.
Ferrari electrics were no better than any other Italian cars built in the same period. Most suffered from poor quality connections and sealing rather than badly thought out wiring. They are not like that today.
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