Mixing tyre widths

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Captain Vimes

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219 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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My brother-in-law has 16 inch steelies on his Mondeo MK3 with 205/55/16s all around. I have a pair of nearly new 215/55/16s having switched to alloys on my Mk4.

Is it OK to run 215s on the rear and 205s of the front? Or would it be better to run the 215s on the front?

Sam_68

9,939 posts

260 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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It depends how much you hate your brother in law.

If you only feel mildy resentful toward him, fit the wider tyres at the rear.

If you really hate his guts, fit the wider tyres at the front.

If there's a chance of your sister being in the car with him a significant part of the time (...and assuming you don't hate her enough to want her dead), I'd tell him to stop being such a cheapskate and to fit the correct tyres all round.

Munter

31,330 posts

256 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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Regardless of the safety issues related to grip/handling. The sets would have different diameters. Which could upset the traction control into taking some interesting actions.

Captain Vimes

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Saturday 27th August 2011
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Munter said:
Regardless of the safety issues related to grip/handling. The sets would have different diameters. Which could upset the traction control into taking some interesting actions.
The diameters would be the same wouldn't they? I would never fit different diameters without really knowing what I was doing. (Which I dont)

Doesn't sound like a good idea anyway...


Mr2Mike

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270 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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Captain Vimes said:
The diameters would be the same wouldn't they? I would never fit different diameters without really knowing what I was doing. (Which I dont)

Doesn't sound like a good idea anyway...
Since they are both 55 profile tyres the wider one will also have a larger rolling radius.

Captain Vimes

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Saturday 27th August 2011
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Mr2Mike said:
Since they are both 55 profile tyres the wider one will also have a larger rolling radius.
Still not getting that! If the wheel is 16' in both cases, and the profile 55 in both cases, surely the radius is identical? How does the width of the tyre affect radius?

gowmonster

2,471 posts

182 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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because the profile(height) is a percentage of the width.

Captain Vimes

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Saturday 27th August 2011
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Ahh. I thank you.

Mattt

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233 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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Would that car have traction control?

I've had many cars with staggered setups, IIRC I currently run 215 on the front and 255 on the rear!

Nick3point2

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195 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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To be honest the difference in diameter is about a 1.1cm, which is less than the difference between a new and a bald tyre. And as for the difference in contact patch, again, it's 1cm, which is probably no different to running higher or lower pressures.

So ignore the claims you will be killing your sister and brother in law, chance are there will be absolutely no noticeable differences what so ever.

Sam_68

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260 months

Sunday 28th August 2011
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Nick3point2 said:
So ignore the claims you will be killing your sister and brother in law, chance are there will be absolutely no noticeable differences what so ever.
My post was tongue in cheek, hence the smiley. wink

You would need to consider how to explain the mix of tyres to your insurance company, however, if there was ever a serious accident.

Nick3point2

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195 months

Friday 2nd September 2011
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Sam_68 said:
You would need to consider how to explain the mix of tyres to your insurance company, however, if there was ever a serious accident.
Why? Would you feel the need to explain why you had different tyre brands front and rear? A top of the range tyre vs a borderline illegal ditchfinder of the same size will create a much bigger issue than what the OP is talking about.

Nick3point2

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195 months

Friday 2nd September 2011
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Sam_68 said:
My post was tongue in cheek, hence the smiley. wink
Didn't see a smiley.... But I am on the mobile site so if it wasn't in the text I wouldn't see it.

Sam_68

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260 months

Saturday 3rd September 2011
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Nick3point2 said:
Why? Would you feel the need to explain why you had different tyre brands front and rear? A top of the range tyre vs a borderline illegal ditchfinder of the same size will create a much bigger issue than what the OP is talking about.
One is inadvisable, but complies with manufacturer specification.

The other is inadvisable and doesn't, therefore requires declaration to your insurance company.

toger13

118 posts

189 months

Saturday 3rd September 2011
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might upset the ABS even if it doesnt have traction control due the the rolling radius but very mich doubt it will effect anything else

Si

Munter

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256 months

Saturday 3rd September 2011
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toger13 said:
might upset the ABS even if it doesnt have traction control due the the rolling radius but very mich doubt it will effect anything else

Si
The reason I mentioned it was there was a thread a year or so ago where someone fitted different radius tyres to a Mondeo (tyre place said it'd be ok) and the TC get cutting the power. The difference was much bigger than being discussed here, but who knows how much of a difference is needed to trip these things up.

Nick3point2

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195 months

Sunday 4th September 2011
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Sam_68 said:
One is inadvisable, but complies with manufacturer specification.

The other is inadvisable and doesn't, therefore requires declaration to your insurance company.
Touché.

toger13

118 posts

189 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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ye sorry what I said didnt make much sence what i ment to say was it could effect the traction control but even if it was a model without traction control (dont know what model do or dont) it was likely to have ABS so could be effected

Si

chimaeras

109 posts

175 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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My TVR has 205 /55/15 on the front and 245/45/16 on the rear and that is standard !

Sam_68

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260 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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I'm not sure it is wise to hold TVR up as an example of best practice when it comes to handling...