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Tonights musings - contemplating changing from my recently bought 2nd MX5.
I fancy perhaps something with a bit of "Zing". Ideally with more money I'd have an Alfa Gtv, but realistically I'll be just swapping, so does a Clio Wily for 2-2.5k sound like a good buy? I'd like something a bit special, and these seem a good buy whole remaining quite sensible at the moment while I can't afford to gamble on something more exotic.
What's the engine like? I really miss a car with a characterful engine. Do they sound good for a 4cyl?
What are spares like? Economy?
Sound like a fun buy for this kind of money?
I fancy perhaps something with a bit of "Zing". Ideally with more money I'd have an Alfa Gtv, but realistically I'll be just swapping, so does a Clio Wily for 2-2.5k sound like a good buy? I'd like something a bit special, and these seem a good buy whole remaining quite sensible at the moment while I can't afford to gamble on something more exotic.
What's the engine like? I really miss a car with a characterful engine. Do they sound good for a 4cyl?
What are spares like? Economy?
Sound like a fun buy for this kind of money?
DanGPR said:
Whilst I don't have much input about the Williams, why would you prefer one over a Clio 172, which will be faster/newer/more reliable/more upgradable/the list goes on?
I might go out on a limb here and say that while the 172 might be quicker, it will not have anywhere near as much character or be anything close to the experience that having a Williams would be. Of course, if you don't "get" the Williams, then the 172 or 182 is a better car, sure.I'd go for a williams. Last night I had the oppertunity to drive a Mk1 Clio 1.8 16v. It was lowered to an inch of its life, induction kit and scorpion exhaust and I wasn't expecting much. But they pull very well through the gears, and with the car being so low with wide tyres it stuck like you wouldn't believe. Its a very raw driving experiance, sitting so low, no power steering, no abs. Saying that, to the guy who bought his son one for his 21st, you do realise its pretty much a death trap for a young lad? It has the ability to get to dangerous speeds and I found on the limit it was quite twitchy especially under breaking. It wouldn't be too difficult to wrap one around a tree and they ain't exactly Euro N-cap 5 star cars now are they. I hope he's a sensible lad.
StottyZr said:
I'd go for a williams. Last night I had the oppertunity to drive a Mk1 Clio 1.8 16v. It was lowered to an inch of its life, induction kit and scorpion exhaust and I wasn't expecting much. But they pull very well through the gears, and with the car being so low with wide tyres it stuck like you wouldn't believe. Its a very raw driving experiance, sitting so low, no power steering, no abs. Saying that, to the guy who bought his son one for his 21st, you do realise its pretty much a death trap for a young lad?
Good grief - looking back at some of the cars I ( and my friends ) drove round when we were 21 and under, it's amazing we all survived 
Hello Mate
I had a williams and ran it for a few years. They are a fantastic little car not a whole lot slower in a straight line than a 172. But it really comes into its own in the twists it just sticks to the road great car. The parts can be abit pricey there is not alot of room in the engine bay at all so the cambelt change cost's a few pound. Mine had a 197 thousand miles on the clock before i sold it and it was still going strong. If you need any more info P'm Me mate and i will try and answer all questions.
Cheers James
I had a williams and ran it for a few years. They are a fantastic little car not a whole lot slower in a straight line than a 172. But it really comes into its own in the twists it just sticks to the road great car. The parts can be abit pricey there is not alot of room in the engine bay at all so the cambelt change cost's a few pound. Mine had a 197 thousand miles on the clock before i sold it and it was still going strong. If you need any more info P'm Me mate and i will try and answer all questions.
Cheers James
StottyZr said:
I'd go for a williams. Last night I had the oppertunity to drive a Mk1 Clio 1.8 16v. It was lowered to an inch of its life, induction kit and scorpion exhaust and I wasn't expecting much. But they pull very well through the gears, and with the car being so low with wide tyres it stuck like you wouldn't believe. Its a very raw driving experiance, sitting so low, no power steering, no abs. Saying that, to the guy who bought his son one for his 21st, you do realise its pretty much a death trap for a young lad? It has the ability to get to dangerous speeds and I found on the limit it was quite twitchy especially under breaking. It wouldn't be too difficult to wrap one around a tree and they ain't exactly Euro N-cap 5 star cars now are they. I hope he's a sensible lad.
Rubbish. Not all 21 year olds are idiots who need to be wrapped in cotton wool.I had a Mitsubishi Starion Turbo when I was 19/20, and it was chipped to 240BHP. it was only 3 years old, and i loved it. i learned quite a bit from a powerful rear drive coupe at a young age.
My 16v Clio had ABS and power steering, your talking about a modified chavved up car. Big bore exhausts and lowered suspension just ruin the car IMO.
s m said:
StottyZr said:
I'd go for a williams. Last night I had the oppertunity to drive a Mk1 Clio 1.8 16v. It was lowered to an inch of its life, induction kit and scorpion exhaust and I wasn't expecting much. But they pull very well through the gears, and with the car being so low with wide tyres it stuck like you wouldn't believe. Its a very raw driving experiance, sitting so low, no power steering, no abs. Saying that, to the guy who bought his son one for his 21st, you do realise its pretty much a death trap for a young lad?
Good grief - looking back at some of the cars I ( and my friends ) drove round when we were 21 and under, it's amazing we all survived >dies six times<
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