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jackal

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11,251 posts

313 months

Monday 29th August 2011
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Cheap ... Obviously for a reason but at this sort of money im not sure id be bothered.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3171875.htm


Great spec as well.

sone

4,612 posts

269 months

Monday 29th August 2011
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Stolen recovered is alaways going to reduce the price, that and its a manual. It would always be in the back of your mind that some low life scrote had thrashed the pants off it!.
Nice car tho!, and at that apart from the stigma a good buy. 21k on one of these engines in my opinion is bugger all.

just my humble

nobodyknows

12,338 posts

200 months

Monday 29th August 2011
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What's a 430 Couple?

sone

4,612 posts

269 months

Monday 29th August 2011
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nobodyknows said:
What's a 430 Couple?
Bloody hell that's cheap there's two of em. biggrin

Thom987

3,185 posts

197 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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Surely it would only be recorded on the hpi register if the insurance company paid out? Maybe its just me but there could be more to this.

Adz man

344 posts

190 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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Stolen recovered with no damage whatsoever. How did they get in and start it without any damage?

The prob with Navtrak is exactly this...you will most likely get the car back and it's now worth a lot less than what you would have been paid out if it was a total loss. The car is up for peanuts at £60k but prob won't even get that.

Does the insurance company cover the difference that the owner will lose out on? Course not and impossible to do unless the owner sold immediately rather than a year or so later.

CraigVmax

12,248 posts

313 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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maybe they stole the keys?

matc

4,738 posts

238 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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Adz man said:
Stolen recovered with no damage whatsoever. How did they get in and start it without any damage?

The prob with Navtrak is exactly this...you will most likely get the car back and it's now worth a lot less than what you would have been paid out if it was a total loss. The car is up for peanuts at £60k but prob won't even get that.

Does the insurance company cover the difference that the owner will lose out on? Course not and impossible to do unless the owner sold immediately rather than a year or so later.
They may have broken into the house to get the keys, this seems to be the normal way of stealing cars now!

The owner must be mad if he didn't go after the insurance company for some form of compensation for its reduced value.

CraigVmax

12,248 posts

313 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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he probably bought it back from them.

Chad_Hugo

680 posts

209 months

Wednesday 31st August 2011
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I don't really see this as 'cheap' at 60k considering that just a few weeks ago there was an black f1 430 with the sames miles (22,000), same year, and NOT stolen/recovered listed at just under 62k.

Would have sold for close to 60k I imagine, so if this one is the same price or very close to the same price it is pretty poor value.

If for a few thousand more you can get a car that has not been stolen, I think you always would pay that small premium, after all who wants to own a formerly stolen car?

This car would (to me) only represent good value at under 60k- expect it to sell for 55k-57k which would be reasonable.

Adz man

344 posts

190 months

Wednesday 31st August 2011
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CouponCroc said:
Provided it was stolen using the keys and then immediately recovered (without being involved in a crash), I honestly wouldn't care whether it had been stolen or not if I was the buyer...
Yes but it will still affect the cars value as when you sell on people will do an HPI check and you have a load of hassle which no doubt this current seller is having.

This could be a perfect example but with that little old HPI alert popping up then it's dare I say, worthless. Sorry, I mean worth less smile

ferdi p

1,537 posts

203 months

Wednesday 31st August 2011
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Adz man said:
CouponCroc said:
Provided it was stolen using the keys and then immediately recovered (without being involved in a crash), I honestly wouldn't care whether it had been stolen or not if I was the buyer...
Yes but it will still affect the cars value as when you sell on people will do an HPI check and you have a load of hassle which no doubt this current seller is having.

This could be a perfect example but with that little old HPI alert popping up then it's dare I say, worthless. Sorry, I mean worth less smile
Bang on..
Stolen recovered is always a bh to sell..
Unless you know the thief personally, how the hell is it possible to know the truth about what happened..!!