Planning Permission and Objectiosn help
Planning Permission and Objectiosn help
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Ej74

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1,048 posts

209 months

Thursday 1st September 2011
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Advice Required

Neighbour knocks on door and requests that he wants to move his fence back to where it should ie at the boundary of his property - no issues agreed

Next day come home and find this.....




And within a few weeks this.....



I don't mind the lean to he has erected in all reality its the rise in height of the fence, if he had asked me i probably would have agreed to fence going up by an additional 1/2 foot etc.

Council have been informed and have yet to visit the site, in preparation the planning dept have informed me that he probably needs planning permission and i would therefore be requested to submit my objections (must be factual and relative to the planning and not personal).

My request is anyone go through something similar and provide some advice or comments

Cheers

Munter

31,330 posts

265 months

Thursday 1st September 2011
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Ej74 said:
My request is anyone go through something similar and provide some advice or comments
How high is that "new" fence? I recall a thread saying anything over 6ft requires permission.

Given the council planner is prepared to come out and give it a poke, I'd suggest you are on the correct path. Unless you're prepared to knock on next doors door and tell him you think it's out of order...

DavidY

4,492 posts

308 months

Thursday 1st September 2011
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Beware that this exercise could be construed as a dispute with a neighbour, which must be declared when selling your house. If you want to sell in the near future you might want to consider how far you go with this.

Above 6ft on a boundary would normally require planning permission as Munter said.


Ej74

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1,048 posts

209 months

Thursday 1st September 2011
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There is no dispute with me its with the council now ?

Neighbours a PXXK

Per my conversation with him :

What are you building ?
None of your business its on my property !
Don't you need planning permission ?
No its temporary !


We have a hedge between the properties which we had trimmed when we got back from our stay abroad we had tennants for 2 years, during the above conversation it was quoted as follows ...

You never trimmed your hedge ?
Did you ever ask me ?
You never trimmed your hedge and i had to do it !
Did you ever ask me ?
It was alot of effort and took ages !
Again did YOU EVER ASK ME TO ?



All this started soon after I rolled up in my new car which happens to be a GTR, go figure ?




Busa mav

2,817 posts

178 months

Thursday 1st September 2011
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The fence can be up to 2m in height.

As for the buildings , they look as though they are covering more than 50% of the plot.

VxDuncan

2,850 posts

258 months

Thursday 1st September 2011
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Quick guide to what is possible in permitted development:
http://www.homebuilding.co.uk/feature/permitted-de...

So it's possible he can build that sructure w/out planning. Obviously building regs may still apply and therefore might still be illegal even if it's permitted development.

For further info download the full development rules they are fairly easy going, but I haven't time to search out a copy at work.

Ej74

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209 months

Thursday 1st September 2011
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Thanks for the link - some highlights

◦You can extend a dwelling by 4m to the rear if it’s single storey or 3m if it’s double

◦In Wales and Northern Ireland any outbuildings closer to the house than 5m count as extensions - current extension is already 3m +

◦Outbuildings must be single storey with a maximum ridge height of 4m for a pitched roof or 3m for any other kind of roof. The eaves height must be no more than 2.5 metres - maybe violating this as well

◦If the outbuilding is closer to the boundary than 2m it shall be no higher than 2.5m



Jobbo

13,643 posts

288 months

Thursday 1st September 2011
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Ej74 said:
Neighbour knocks on door and requests that he wants to move his fence back to where it should ie at the boundary of his property - no issues agreed
I'm not sure this is terribly important to the planning objections, but what was this bit about? Why was the fence not on the boundary?

Ej74

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209 months

Thursday 1st September 2011
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The fence when we moved in was set back from the edge of his extension by 1/2 to 1 foot
Never thought anything of it, until he knocked.

I could have stood my ground and say your not moving the fence, but i agreed with no objections.

Here's the thing he moved the fence as much as he wanted to, and not to the boundary as you would have expected - go figure ?

He trampled all over our spring onions and radish

stongle

5,910 posts

186 months

Thursday 1st September 2011
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How are the radish bearing up?

Jobbo

13,643 posts

288 months

Thursday 1st September 2011
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Ej74 said:
The fence when we moved in was set back from the edge of his extension by 1/2 to 1 foot
Never thought anything of it, until he knocked.

I could have stood my ground and say your not moving the fence, but i agreed with no objections.

Here's the thing he moved the fence as much as he wanted to, and not to the boundary as you would have expected - go figure ?

He trampled all over our spring onions and radish
I'm intrigued as to what you refer to as the boundary - generally the fence defines the boundary so there's no reason for either party to move it. Not trying to create a boundary dispute for you (you *really* don't want one), but if things kick off then do bear it in mind.

Ej74

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209 months

Thursday 1st September 2011
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RIP Radish !

If you look at picture 2 you can see the edge of the extension, i would have thought the boundary was designated by the plot and buildings within it. Granted the fence may have been further back but in reality i would be based on the edge of his property.

Per pic 2 you can also see that he did not move the fence back to the edge his extension.

In the Councils hands now.

Is there any compelling argument I can make to overcome planning permission when it is submitted