List of cars that suck!!
List of cars that suck!!
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mrzigazaga

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18,740 posts

186 months

Friday 2nd September 2011
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Hi peeps..Just thought as this is a car forum for real men who drive petrol guzzling monsters that it was time we listed all the cars that suck..I will start with what i think is the worst car ever made...Fiat Suckento Sporting ..1ltr pussy..laugh..Ziga



Edited by mrzigazaga on Friday 2nd September 22:36

ROOODBOY

3,900 posts

216 months

Friday 2nd September 2011
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For me it has to be the old VW Beetle.

They are utterly hateful, ste, stupid looking, stupid sounding, stupid handling lumps of automotive horror.

How so many millions of people who bought them could have been soooo wrong is beyond me.

If one of these was the last remaining car on earth I would burn it and walk!










And relax.... biggrin

No, but really, I'm not very keen on them.

Wedg1e

27,002 posts

286 months

Saturday 3rd September 2011
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ROOODBOY said:
For me it has to be the old VW Beetle.

They are utterly hateful, ste, stupid looking, stupid sounding, stupid handling lumps of automotive horror.

How so many millions of people who bought them could have been soooo wrong is beyond me.

If one of these was the last remaining car on earth I would burn it and walk!


And relax.... biggrin

No, but really, I'm not very keen on them.
There's a guy on another forum I frequent who is the antithesis of this and thinks the sun shines out of the Morris Minor's tailpipe. Like the Beetle, the Minor was a car of its time and circumstances - the Skoda Estelle being another example. Not intrinsically 'bad', just not great either. All cars built for mass transport with more compromises than you could shake a CAD pen at hehe - and not helped in the case of the Estelle by having a Communist state-run factory building it... from horse-dung, old corned beef tins and recycled army uniforms.
The 80's was probably the turning point: in hindsight Renault's boast that they 'Build a better car' wasn't totally idle: things really did start to improve (to a point; things have gone a bit far now in that it's hard to tell one make from another and cost-manufacturing means that parts are only just able to do the job - look how often springs break and cylinder heads crack these days) but then that was also the point when CADCAM and automated processes took over from the drawing board, recycled engines and a disgruntled workforce - thinking Hillman Imp here - another car beset by problems that could have been a rival for the Beetle, Mini and so many other 'peoples' cars'. Then there was the Allegro, with concept styling that should have sold millions but which wasn't adopted due to the need to keep a high bonnet-line for the old engine they used. Or how about the Trabant? Another Commie-built pile of crap, but was it really that bad? Is it not equally a tribute to the ingenuity of the designers to come up with papier-mache doors and the engine from a chainsaw and manage to make something resembling personal transport? You could pick the Reliant Robin, but that's to overlook its birth in poverty-stricken postwar Britain where few could afford a car so rode motorbikes with sidecars to carry the whole family (On The Buses, anyone?). Keep the concept of three wheels (so you can ride it on a bike licence), wrap some bodywork around the passengers and hey presto, Del Boy's favourite. Well, except it wasn't: Del's was a Regal Supervan, the precursor to the Robin. It was increasing personal wealth and the retirement of all those old boys who'd never passsd their car tests that killed the Robin, not that it was a bad car per se. And I guess that brings us back to the Beetle: a chance meeting between Herr Porsche and one Hans Ledwinka where Porsche was tearing his hair out 'cos old Adolf had asked (well, told) him to design a car for the masses saw the Czech offer his concept for a rear-wheel drive, aircooled 4-seater. Porsche sketched the Beetle, Ledwinka sketched the Tatra 87 and gave inspiration to something that became the Skoda Estelle. Post-war it was the concerted efforts of a British Army officer that got the flattened Volkswagen factory back in action, making blobby tin boxes to generate revenue to help get Germany back on its feet, which led to spare funds to allow them to create the Porsche 356 and subsequently the 911. Meanwhile one Alec Issigonis was asked to come up with a car for the British masses (well OK, for export really) and gave us: the Morris Minor. Not a million miles different in shape from the VW Beetle, funnily enough... but at least the engine's in the right place biggrin

Anyway, irrespective of the foregoing and the fact that you can make excuses for almost anything on 4 wheels, my list of truly horrid-to-look-at-if-nothing-else cars would have to include the Renault 9, the Datsun 120Y and the Volvo 740. Oh, and the last rework of the Ford Granada... the Scorpio was it? Fat Yank styling on wheels that were too small for it. Stupid idea.

ROOODBOY

3,900 posts

216 months

Saturday 3rd September 2011
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Hmmm, a lot going on there, but if I may...

I see the point of just about all the cars you mention (except the feckin' Beetle).

I really like Morris Minors.
So simple, effective and quite an entertaining thing to drive. I like the look of them too.

The Mini, well need I even start!
Great looks, great handling, cheap, revolutioary packaging and some truly ingenious engineering solutions (ok, some not so good ones too, but hey, there will never be a perfect car!).

The Relaint Regal/Robin, as you say, a bike license will get you driving - good stuff.

Hillman Imp - cute looking and handles surprisingly well, a real competitor to the Mini but maybe arrived a little too late on the scene after the Mini was so well established, perhaps..?

The original Fiat 500 usually gets left out of the 'old and small car' comparisons, but I think it is unjustifiably forgoten a lot of the time.
Clever little car that.

Even the Skoda Estelle doesn't offend me, although I've never driven one of those, so maybe it would!?

I'd have to argue a positive for the Datsun 120Y.
When it was competing with Marinas, cortinas, Vivas etc. I wouldn't be surprised if the Japanese had already started building technically better cars than the British manufacturers by the 1970's, but with company cars coming into fashion and patriotism being stronger in this country back then it probably didn't get the sales figures it deserved.

Volvo 740.Yeah. Beige. Elbow patches. Functional, but uninspiring. A white good of a car. But we all need a washing machine...

Granada (last generation).
Agree, no excuse for that much ugly. What were they thinking!?

There are many horrid, rubbish cars that I really like, and some good ones I don't like (Subaru Impreza, for examlpe), but the Beetle offends me in evething it does and is.
I love Porsche 911s though! smile

Edited by ROOODBOY on Saturday 3rd September 02:34


Edited by ROOODBOY on Saturday 3rd September 02:38

mrzigazaga

Original Poster:

18,740 posts

186 months

Saturday 3rd September 2011
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It was a fun time growing up in the mid-late seventies..There was a lot of cars you would laugh at but every now and then something like this would roar down a stretch of road where i used tp live..


This re-initiated certain cars as then they were looked upon as hot rod or custom car material..
I love seeing cars that have been customised it kinda says fk the economy im going to drive a gas guzzling 150db sounding hell hound...I always remember one of my mates who had a mini and he put a K&N on it..He got quite offended when we use to say "That car sucks"..But it really did..We actually meant that you could hear a sucking noise coming from the SU mounted K&N...I also had a friend whos last name was butler...You can imagine 10 of us all saying "I hate you butler" in a blakey sounding voice..He used to get the right hump...laugh..Ziga

pistolar

1,474 posts

289 months

Saturday 3rd September 2011
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2litre wedge
280 wedge

Jonny weggie

1,607 posts

212 months

Saturday 3rd September 2011
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Anything under 2ltr should belong in a Milk carton.

PS - The car i think is a Daf variomatic [i think] it's like a vacum cleaner it only sucks and blows.

jonny.

Big Daft Lad

1,361 posts

208 months

Saturday 3rd September 2011
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I win



PS

pistolar said:
2litre wedge
280 wedge
Take it back!

mrzigazaga

Original Poster:

18,740 posts

186 months

Saturday 3rd September 2011
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pistolar said:
2litre wedge
280 wedge
Which came first..The chicken or the egg..As much as i would love a V8 i still love my 280 and it has a K&N fitted so it probably does suck..But its a TVR?..

jmorgan

36,010 posts

305 months

Saturday 3rd September 2011
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They all suck........ (well, not quite)



OK, ok, I had a pedant pill this morning...

Trickie Dickie

2,399 posts

255 months

Saturday 3rd September 2011
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Defo the Mini METRO

When I first started work in the early 1980s my 2 best friends worked together at a company
that had Metro GTi? as company hacks and they both swore by them

At the start I had several minis inc a souped up 1275GT which tore spots off them in every way
(and if you had a mini you hated Beetles - although my wife now has a new style one)

I then got my 1st company car which was and Escort 1.3 Estate which again was leagues ahead of the Metros

I also believe tho that by this time the japs were making better cars starting with Ian's hate the Datsun 120

Cheers
Trickie

6potdave

2,652 posts

234 months

Saturday 3rd September 2011
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Anything Korean

Mr E

22,672 posts

280 months

Saturday 3rd September 2011
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Jonny weggie said:
Anything under 2ltr should belong in a Milk carton.
So every Group A wrc car for starters?

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

225 months

Saturday 3rd September 2011
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Big Daft Lad said:
I win

Technically you are quite wrong

That car doesn't suck

Nor does it squeeze, bang or blow

7mike

3,183 posts

214 months

Saturday 3rd September 2011
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Mr E said:
Jonny weggie said:
Anything under 2ltr should belong in a Milk carton.
So every Group A wrc car for starters?
and my Caterham frown (although should be fun against a wedge driving)

Anyway, my nomination is:
getmecoat

Codswallop

5,256 posts

215 months

Saturday 3rd September 2011
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thinfourth2 said:
Big Daft Lad said:
I win

Technically you are quite wrong

That car doesn't suck

Nor does it squeeze, bang or blow
Technically, that's not even a car, it's a quadricycle nerd

attym3

7,259 posts

189 months

Saturday 3rd September 2011
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Worst car ever driven...VW Fox

Worst car I haven't driven, but just know its gonna be ste...Rover City(stty)

J4CKO

45,532 posts

221 months

Saturday 3rd September 2011
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Try walking in the middle of January when its raining and then see how much said cars suck, I am sure someone would say they would rather walk ten miles in the rain than go in a Metro but its all bluster.

A running car, taxed, MOT'd, Insured and fuelled is 90 percent of the equation, the other ten percent is what gets discussed on here.

Anyway, all cars suck, its called induction.