458 or Scuderia ...
458 or Scuderia ...
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90 B

Original Poster:

654 posts

233 months

Sunday 4th September 2011
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Fellas,

I am heading down to Ferrari Marenello next month and have decided to take one of these champions out for a spin.

I'm torn between the 458 Italia and Scuderia ...

F430 Scuderia

  • Much more focused
458 Italia

  • The most up to date technology Ferrari has. The 458 is also faster.
Which would you choose and why?

Magic919

14,584 posts

232 months

Sunday 4th September 2011
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Try them both. Then the LP560 whilst you are at it.

90 B

Original Poster:

654 posts

233 months

Sunday 4th September 2011
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I drove the LP560-4 about a year ago. I appreciated the car but it didn't feel involving enough unlike the F430 I drove ...

Im a bit scared the 458 will not feel involving to drive as appose to the Scuderia which certainly will!

But the 458 is a 458 and MUST be an unbelievable experience considering it is the successor to the F430 which is a STUNNING car. The best car I have ever driven BUT I haven't driven that many, granted.

Decisions ...

Magic919

14,584 posts

232 months

Sunday 4th September 2011
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Sounds like 430 Scuderia will fit the bill. There is no F430 Scuderia, btw.

90 B

Original Poster:

654 posts

233 months

Sunday 4th September 2011
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Maybe ...

I will decide when I get there I think.

Thanks

cuthbert

373 posts

270 months

Sunday 4th September 2011
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Hi I have owned both. IMOP no contest whatsoever the 458 every time

MrDarkBlack

4,003 posts

207 months

Sunday 4th September 2011
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cuthbert said:
Hi I have owned both. IMOP no contest whatsoever the 458 every time
I've not driven either, though thought that the Scud would be more rewarding?

Top lurking by the way.. 7 years and 4 months, and finally.. smile


KenC

733 posts

266 months

Sunday 4th September 2011
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cuthbert said:
Hi I have owned both. IMOP no contest whatsoever the 458 every time
Old boys need the extra comfort wink .

sjn2004

4,051 posts

268 months

Sunday 4th September 2011
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cuthbert said:
Hi I have owned both. IMOP no contest whatsoever the 458 every time
Wow you've been a member for 7 years and thats your first post. Must be a record for lurking!

steven f

538 posts

231 months

Sunday 4th September 2011
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yes these new models make the old 360cs look and drive like an old classic

90 B

Original Poster:

654 posts

233 months

Sunday 4th September 2011
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steven f said:
yes these new models make the old 360cs look and drive like an old classic
Now were talking ...

The 360 CS. Best sounding car on earth

UH-Matt

2,173 posts

271 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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Love the scud but will have to be 458 for me!

Martian O

2,734 posts

193 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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sjn2004 said:
cuthbert said:
Hi I have owned both. IMOP no contest whatsoever the 458 every time
Wow you've been a member for 7 years and thats your first post. Must be a record for lurking!
"Cuthbert" has a few PH user names, "bruce 430 scud" is one of them.

steven f

538 posts

231 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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Martian O said:
sjn2004 said:
cuthbert said:
Hi I have owned both. IMOP no contest whatsoever the 458 every time
Wow you've been a member for 7 years and thats your first post. Must be a record for lurking!
"Cuthbert" has a few PH user names, "bruce 430 scud" is one of them.
he should be banned then

Martian O

2,734 posts

193 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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steven f said:
he should be banned then
Hi Steve! wavey

pistolp

1,719 posts

253 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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I've driven a scud, I own a stradale and a 458.

Buy a scud for one reason. It is cheaper and every bit as good in almost every way. They feel very similar if you ask me, you'll just lose less money on the scud if you buy well.

Unless you are Jason Plato or Tiff Needell, the 'lack of involvement' you describe is a moot point. At anything other than flat out they feel quite similar as said before. The 458 is also incredibly involving, don't be fooled by the marketing crap. It is quicker round Bedford than the scud and that is a 'track' car. I've never driven a car that is as forgiving as the 458, its also very progressive handling wise. Truly remarkable car. That said if I was able to drive the scud properly I would bet my house that its just as good, only 80k cheaper.

Stradale even more involving (noise wise especially) but not as easy to drive quickly with all the toys off. Less forgiving and you're more aware of the weight behind you. Its by no means not a good car, far from it, but it is less confidence inspiring for an enthusiast as opposed to a pro. Just as good again but less flattering to your driving, would take more time to master.

In all honesty, forget which one is quicker because its irrelevant. They are both silly quick and you'd need a stop watch to tell the difference. Just try the one you like the look of, in fact try both and decide for yourself.

Alot of people on here talk alot of crap.

ted 191

1,470 posts

256 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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pistolp said:
I've driven a scud, I own a stradale and a 458.

Buy a scud for one reason. It is cheaper and every bit as good in almost every way. They feel very similar if you ask me, you'll just lose less money on the scud if you buy well.

Unless you are Jason Plato or Tiff Needell, the 'lack of involvement' you describe is a moot point. At anything other than flat out they feel quite similar as said before. The 458 is also incredibly involving, don't be fooled by the marketing crap. It is quicker round Bedford than the scud and that is a 'track' car. I've never driven a car that is as forgiving as the 458, its also very progressive handling wise. Truly remarkable car. That said if I was able to drive the scud properly I would bet my house that its just as good, only 80k cheaper.

Stradale even more involving (noise wise especially) but not as easy to drive quickly with all the toys off. Less forgiving and you're more aware of the weight behind you. Its by no means not a good car, far from it, but it is less confidence inspiring for an enthusiast as opposed to a pro. Just as good again but less flattering to your driving, would take more time to master.

In all honesty, forget which one is quicker because its irrelevant. They are both silly quick and you'd need a stop watch to tell the difference. Just try the one you like the look of, in fact try both and decide for yourself.

Alot of people on here talk alot of crap.
Scuds are crap !

Magic919

14,584 posts

232 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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The OP is just going to hire it, not buy one. And he'll drive it, accompanied, on the road. Let's keep some perspective.

90 B

Original Poster:

654 posts

233 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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Thanks for the replied people ...

I am infact hiring one in Marenello! I am in no position to be buying one ...

I am 20 for starts!

However, I will be buying a serious machine in about 15 years so keep the comments coming lol

Edited by 90 B on Monday 5th September 19:55

KenC

733 posts

266 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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ted 191 said:
pistolp said:
Alot of people on here talk alot of crap.
Scuds are crap !
Point proven very well wink .