Track day tyre pressures
Track day tyre pressures
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Rossco2010

Original Poster:

133 posts

199 months

Sunday 4th September 2011
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What sort of pressures do people run on track / airfield days?

Just spent a day on an airfield and pumped tyres up to the max permissible on the sidewall (51psi)as instructed by organisers and the thing was impossible, like driving on ice.

Any thoughts welcome.....

Cheers

MADMAX2

2,336 posts

225 months

Sunday 4th September 2011
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woooooooooooooo there! let some air out yikes

24psi all round max

no wonder you said it was like bambi on ice those tyres were bouncing on the rims way too much

scotty_d

6,795 posts

225 months

Sunday 4th September 2011
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25psi all round works for me on the track and road.

haircutmike

22,511 posts

235 months

Sunday 4th September 2011
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51...................they're taking the mick, ask for your money back, they obviously know naff all!

22-24 for hard track use, that will increase to 28-30 when hot.

Rossco2010

Original Poster:

133 posts

199 months

Sunday 4th September 2011
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MADMAX2 said:
woooooooooooooo there! let some air out yikes

24psi all round max

no wonder you said it was like bambi on ice those tyres were bouncing on the rims way too much
Right, that makes a lot more bloody sense now...morning session was a bit of a waste of time dancing around on comedy tyres, then it p*ssed it down in the afternoon, which was additional fun...!

Thanks for this guys, will have another crack at a sensible pressure.

MADMAX2

2,336 posts

225 months

Sunday 4th September 2011
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Rossco2010 said:
MADMAX2 said:
woooooooooooooo there! let some air out yikes

24psi all round max

no wonder you said it was like bambi on ice those tyres were bouncing on the rims way too much
Right, that makes a lot more bloody sense now...morning session was a bit of a waste of time dancing around on comedy tyres, then it p*ssed it down in the afternoon, which was additional fun...!

Thanks for this guys, will have another crack at a sensible pressure.
dancing around on comedy tyres..... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA thats a great quote aint laughed hard in ages!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

can imagine you driving it and the tt who told you pissing himself

Rossco2010

Original Poster:

133 posts

199 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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No, it was the MX-5s that were laughing as the TVR lived up to every allegation ever made about it's handling! I'll see if I can post a video.

MADMAX2

2,336 posts

225 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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On a serious note the guy who told you to pump your tyres to 51 psi should never work there again! His advice could have caused many safety handling problems even going off the track through no fault of your own!! Glad you got home and flagged this up!! You knew your car and limits and no harm came to you and the car

Rossco2010

Original Poster:

133 posts

199 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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MADMAX2 said:
On a serious note the guy who told you to pump your tyres to 51 psi should never work there again! His advice could have caused many safety handling problems even going off the track through no fault of your own!! Glad you got home and flagged this up!! You knew your car and limits and no
harm came to you and the car
I agree, but this is a very well known provider and this is their standard written advice specifically referencing TVRs...

sgrimshaw

7,587 posts

281 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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Rossco2010 said:
I agree, but this is a very well known provider and this is their standard written advice specifically referencing TVRs...
Do you have a link, if they have it in writing then you can't fall foul of the PH Naming and Shaming policy.

M@H

11,298 posts

303 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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..51 psi is going to be a quick way to scrub out the middle section of your tread too. Rubbish advice!

Rossco2010

Original Poster:

133 posts

199 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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sgrimshaw said:
Do you have a link, if they have it in writing then you can't fall foul of the PH Naming and Shaming policy.
I'm very tempted, but don't want to be accused of taking pot shots at people; however if you book one of days and the advice is as follows - IGNORE IT!

"Please note that as your vehicle will be cornering at speed, you may need to inflate your tyres more than you would normally. Vehicles such as the Lotus Elise, Caterham etc are usually ok as they are lightweight and designed for high speed cornering, but cars such as Subaru Imprezas, Porsches, Madzas, TVRs etc are recommended to inflate their tyres to the maximum stated on the tyre itself to protect the side wall of the tyre."

sgrimshaw

7,587 posts

281 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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Rossco2010 said:
I'm very tempted, but don't want to be accused of taking pot shots at people; however if you book one of days and the advice is as follows - IGNORE IT!

"Please note that as your vehicle will be cornering at speed, you may need to inflate your tyres more than you would normally. Vehicles such as the Lotus Elise, Caterham etc are usually ok as they are lightweight and designed for high speed cornering, but cars such as Subaru Imprezas, Porsches, Madzas, TVRs etc are recommended to inflate their tyres to the maximum stated on the tyre itself to protect the side wall of the tyre."
For anyone that is interested as to which company is giving this advice, simply search for the part of that statement above using Google UK

i.e. "Please note that as your vehicle will be cornering at speed".

First hit.

Jammy Dodger

2,449 posts

186 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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they clearly want to test you and your CAR at its LIMITS

one to avoid - even ignorant me knows that's rotten advice

ETA - for future reference, a reputable organiser is http://www.motorsport-events.co.uk

If their locations are inconvenient, I bet Ed Moore/Natasha will be able to advise you of another reputable organiser more local to you



Edited by Jammy Dodger on Wednesday 7th September 06:56

DonkeyApple

70,643 posts

200 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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That seems an extremely odd bit of written advice to give.

I would have thought that it would be bloody dangerous as it would change the dynamic of the car to something the owner is not used to at the exact time and place when the owner will be pushing it.

However, are their any logical reasons for this advice? Is there something different about the circuit or is the day you are paying for about different objectives?

It seems so off the wall that maybe I'm missing something important from this scenario?

haircutmike

22,511 posts

235 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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It seems common practise to raise tyre pressures on some modern tyres that have softer sidewalls, ie; Toyo T1R's, but we are only talking a couple of psi and that's for the road!

When I first started doing T/D's, I was wrongly advised to raise the pressure by about 5psi, that was bad enough giving very lively handling!

After experimenting with pressures a few psi either way on triple 8's, I have found 22/24 a good starting point and have even lowered by a couple of psi on cold days.