The Official Italian GP Thread 2011***SPOILERS***
The Official Italian GP Thread 2011***SPOILERS***
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Life Saab Itch

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37,069 posts

217 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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Around to Monza again and the last race of the European season.

Can Jenson go one better than his superb run last year?

Will Ferrari produce a "Monza Special"?

Will Lewis have a good clean race?

Will we see a shock Sauber/Mercedes/Force India on the podium?

Pizza it is for race day. wink

Mark A S

2,091 posts

217 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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I predict a cracking race,

Jenson
lewis
Fred

ChiChoAndy

73,668 posts

284 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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Very much looking forward to this one. Not are about the Mclarens top end. Hamilton said he was struggling, but Jenson seemed to do Ok.

As usual, hoping for. Jenson win, but it would be nice if the gap was narrowed to Vettel, so if anyone could do that, I'd be grateful!

CurvaParabolica

7,008 posts

213 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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Isn't it true that Ferrari are allowed to use a slightly different engine map here to give them a bit more juice? Some kind of historical agreement from years ago IIRC?! Anyway (and regardless of whether that fact is true or a concoction of my own brain) I think Ferrari will be strong on their home ground and Alonso will be on the top step, followed by Vettel and Hamilton.

Al W

591 posts

256 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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CurvaParabolica said:
Isn't it true that Ferrari are allowed to use a slightly different engine map here to give them a bit more juice? Some kind of historical agreement from years ago IIRC?
nothing in the past would surprise me but unless they allow the red cars to install a bigger tank I can't see how they'd manage that now

GarrettMacD

831 posts

261 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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Al W said:
CurvaParabolica said:
Isn't it true that Ferrari are allowed to use a slightly different engine map here to give them a bit more juice? Some kind of historical agreement from years ago IIRC?
nothing in the past would surprise me but unless they allow the red cars to install a bigger tank I can't see how they'd manage that now
Wasn't there a strange rumour a few years ago that Ferrari used a 3.5 litre engine (which sailed through scrutineering) when the engine sizes were restricted to 3 litres?

Life Saab Itch

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37,069 posts

217 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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Mark A S said:
I predict a cracking race,

Jenson
lewis
Fred
This is what I'm thinking too.

If it's wet, it's Jenson's. If it's dry, he's still in with a big shout. I don't think Vettel will get in to a big dice with anyone for a position. He doesn't need to with Japan and Abu Dhabi virtually a guaranteed win/2nd later on.

I think that Merc will still be too hard on their tyres. If they qualify well, Rosberg and Schumacher could well be up amongst the leaders in the first few laps, but come the pitstops they will probably drop off like they have done this season.

Life Saab Itch

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217 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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GarrettMacD said:
Wasn't there a strange rumour a few years ago that Ferrari used a 3.5 litre engine (which sailed through scrutineering) when the engine sizes were restricted to 3 litres?
That was very much a rumour and nothing more.

You would be able to tell the difference in the engine note with an extra 6th capacity. It would be deeper.



A rumour which is true, is in 1967 after qualifying where he qualified 3rd, Bruce McLaren was told that as his car was built in Britain, it should be painted green. The McLaren mechanics were just opening a tin of the vilest shade of green they could find and were about to brushpaint it on the car when a race official ran in and told them that it could stay red (with blue detailing) as there wasn't a Ferrari on the front row. Apparently most of the crowd would think that "one of their own" had qualified well. smile

KaraK

13,785 posts

238 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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Depressingly I'm away this weekend and I'm not back home untill Wed night so will have to avoid the results for 3 days!

Castrol Craig

18,073 posts

235 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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Mark A S said:
I predict a cracking race,

Jenson
lewis
Fred
I nearly agree...

Jenson
Maaaaaaaaaaahk
Fred

Marcia

5,099 posts

219 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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1. Lewis
2. Jenson
3. Maaark

Lewis always seems to have bad luck here,but he had better deliver on sunday as it's my birthday biggrinparty

MGJohn

10,203 posts

212 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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Castrol Craig said:
Mark A S said:
I predict a cracking race,

Jenson
lewis
Fred
I nearly agree...

Jenson
Maaaaaaaaaaahk
Fred
Be nice if Button ..er Button's it... wink

However, I've a hunch, sneaky suspicion call it what you will, for a progressively better showing from the Mercedes-Benz F1 team at Monza. They are definitely improving if only marginally, but slim margins are usually the only difference between successes and also rans.

Vettel's odds are 15/8 and 2/1 generally. A tad generous from the bookies based on the young driver';s form all this year. His off day at the office still got a 4th... so, how come this apparent bookie generosity? Do they know sometyhing we don't?

This two week gap is flying by. Really looking forward to the race come sunday. Menatine, for those with access to Freeview Channel 301, here's their schedule for the three days this weekend courtesy of BBC's listings :~

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Friday 9 September

Formula One

0855-1035 Live coverage of the 1st practice session from the Italian Grand Prix with 5Live commentary.

1255-1435 Live coverage of the 2nd practice session from the Italian Grand Prix with 5Live commentary.

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Saturday 10 September

Formula One

0955-1105 Live coverage of the 3rd practice session from the Italian Grand Prix with 5Live commentary.

1210-1415 Live coverage of the qualifying from the Italian Grand Prix with commentary options and Driver Tracker.

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Sunday 11 September

Formula One

1210-1515 Live coverage of the Italian Prix with commentary options, Driver Tracker and Onboard Camera.

1515-1615 Post-race analysis and debate with Jake Humphrey.

Roll on ....
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ChiChoAndy

73,668 posts

284 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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Well, bookies don't set their odds on who they think will win, etc, rather where the money is being bet.

nosmallfiat

1,199 posts

216 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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Mclaren 1-2. Vettel having to sit out the race after his post qualifying victory finger somehow gets lodged up his arse

MGJohn

10,203 posts

212 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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ChiChoAndy said:
Well, bookies don't set their odds on who they think will win, etc, rather where the money is being bet.
Actually it's a bit of both, otherwise they'd get their fingers burnt more frequently.
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El Guapo

2,787 posts

219 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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Gaz. said:
1. Rosberg
2. Schumacher
Thanks, you have cheered me up on an otherwise dull evening.

Mr Subtle

151 posts

181 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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nosmallfiat said:
Mclaren 1-2. Vettel having to sit out the race after his post qualifying victory finger somehow gets lodged up his arse
laugh Might just make it a tad difficult to sit, period.

Life Saab Itch

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37,069 posts

217 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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MG John, do we have any odds for this race?

Anyone stand out as being good value?

Life Saab Itch

Original Poster:

37,069 posts

217 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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MG John, do we have any odds for this race?

Anyone stand out as being good value?

petrolsniffer

2,547 posts

203 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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Definately placing podium bets on rosberg and Schumacher

Would it be worth placing a lay bet on vettel I wonder smile