Lancia comes to the UK...

Lancia comes to the UK...

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vit4

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3,507 posts

171 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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Yep! Saw an advert for the Lancia Delta on TV earlier, got a bit excited actually. biggrin Couldn't hear the sound of the TV but recognised the car instantly, and whilst that may well be a mundane car to start with, my head suddenly filled with dewy-eyed visions of petite Italian sports cars and mad rally machines all adorned with that wonderful badge flooding back to the UK en masse, instantly becoming the connoisseur's first port of call in every segment. smokin


Except it turns out to be the "Chrysler Delta" in the UK. Bugger frown

http://www.worldcarfans.com/111082536045/chrysler-...


Anybody have any idea why they've chosen to sell it under Chrysler (which, AIUI doesn't have a great image in the UK anyway?) as opposed to just bringing Lancia back? Feels like the right time, but then I was very young when they stopped selling them here the last time...

Chrisw666

22,655 posts

200 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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Lancia only has nostalgia, which when mixed with reality bring memories of fragile cars that needed lots of attention and not enough Martini liveried integrales drifting through forests.

Lancia line up now seems a very odd collection of rebadged tat or badge engineered cars that are worse than their siblings.

paulrussell

2,117 posts

162 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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vit4 said:
Anybody have any idea why they've chosen to sell it under Chrysler (which, AIUI doesn't have a great image in the UK anyway?) as opposed to just bringing Lancia back? Feels like the right time, but then I was very young when they stopped selling them here the last time...
It's because Lancia don't have any infrastructure here, and it'll cost alot of money to build it up. Also I think it's the image Lancia has in the UK. Lancia are well known for the Intergrale Delta and Stratos, and it's changed the kind of car it builds now, so it would get slated here for not being anything like it was known as previously.

Mr Dave

3,233 posts

196 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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I saw one with dealer signs all over it, really quite a lot bigger looking in the metal but nice back lights. The front is a crime against humanity however and its pretty pricey.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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Lancia sold 80 cars in the Uk in their last year of operating.

They probably all dissolved before their first service too.

A petrol head may fondly remember lancia, the average punter wont.

Pints

18,444 posts

195 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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OP, if you're that keen on it being a Lancia, I'm sure you could just remove the Chrysler badge and replace with the "correct" badge. smile

Fulvisti

320 posts

171 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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I think the Chrysler version of the grille is different too, as with the wheels centres etc. But it's all easily available via ebay etc. I'm hoping they keep the Lancia badges on them if they bring them down under.

fathomfive

9,950 posts

191 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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Pints said:
OP, if you're that keen on it being a Lancia, I'm sure you could just remove the Chrysler badge and replace with the "correct" badge. smile
Bentley? wink

Amateurish

7,760 posts

223 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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Lanica and Chrysler are now the same "brand" effectively, with the same products sold in different markets branded according to the relative strength of each brand pre Chrysler Group - Fiat merger. So in UK Chrysler was chosen while in the rest if Europe, Lancia was chosen. Hence Chrysler Delta over here and Lancia will sell the 300C, Grand Voyager, 200C etc over the channel.

marcosgt

11,032 posts

177 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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paulrussell said:
vit4 said:
Anybody have any idea why they've chosen to sell it under Chrysler (which, AIUI doesn't have a great image in the UK anyway?) as opposed to just bringing Lancia back? Feels like the right time, but then I was very young when they stopped selling them here the last time...
It's because Lancia don't have any infrastructure here, and it'll cost alot of money to build it up. Also I think it's the image Lancia has in the UK. Lancia are well known for the Intergrale Delta and Stratos, and it's changed the kind of car it builds now, so it would get slated here for not being anything like it was known as previously.
Maybe amongst a minority, but the majority (and the press) remember Lancia for cars that rusted away on the forecourt (The Beta - made from untreated Russian steel, I believe).

That's the main reason Lancias aren't sold in the UK anymore and the reason it's better to brand the car as a Chrysler of all things! frown

M.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

247 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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Shame Chrysler insist in using their basic name in UK - leaving the "Dodge Magnum" rebranded as the less excitingly labelled "Chrysler 300C Touring".

"Dodge Delta" would have a certain ring to it! biggrin

thetapeworm

11,284 posts

240 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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I saw a lot of the Lancia variant in Rome last year and thought to myself "that's why they aren't trying to sell in the UK, it's nasty-looking" but then I saw the Chrysler advert on Monday, I suspect I won't see many of the actual cars though.




WeirdNeville

5,969 posts

216 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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I had a Lancia Ypsilon as a hire car. It was woeful. I think Lancia have forgotten everything they ever knew about making exciting cars.

Alfa numeric

3,027 posts

180 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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PH view of Lancia:



Public's view of Lancia:




From what I've seen I'd say modern Lancia's probably fit the public perception of Chrysler as a brand. Plus thay can't be any worse than what Chrysler offer at the moment...

Amateurish

7,760 posts

223 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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WeirdNeville said:
I had a Lancia Ypsilon as a hire car. It was woeful. I think Lancia have forgotten everything they ever knew about making exciting cars.
The Chrysler Ypsilon will be on our shores shortly.

However, Dodge has died a death in the UK and will no longer be sold here.

marcosgt

11,032 posts

177 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Shame Chrysler insist in using their basic name in UK - leaving the "Dodge Magnum" rebranded as the less excitingly labelled "Chrysler 300C Touring".
Oh yeah, we all want to tell our mates we've got a Magnum biggrin



M.

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

234 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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2011 Ypsilon looks ok, from the rear anyway, built on the FIAT 500/Panda/Ford Ka platform so shouldn't be bad

appropriately for a small car it will be made in Tychy

RizzoTheRat

25,220 posts

193 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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They're just not going to be the same though are they. A mate of mine had a Martini liveried Delta HF Turbo, probably not that quick by modern standards but a fantastic car in its day, shame it looked like a Polo though.

LuS1fer

41,154 posts

246 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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Amateurish said:
The Chrysler Ypsilon will be on our shores shortly.

However, Dodge has died a death in the UK and will no longer be sold here.
Chrysler died the death too - they just haven't realised.....but they will.

angry jock

1,005 posts

200 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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RizzoTheRat said:
They're just not going to be the same though are they. A mate of mine had a Martini liveried Delta HF Turbo, probably not that quick by modern standards but a fantastic car in its day, shame it looked like a Polo though.
scratchchin


yep could be twins! wink