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Trustmeimadoctor

Original Poster:

14,268 posts

177 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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hi guys i have been toying with the idea of a well toy smile
but i was wondering what are kitcars actually like to insure ?

id have 0 no claims as its in use on the daily im 31 it be kept in a garage etc

how do they go about working it out as obviously every car is different how can they till if its modified etc say you turbod it or stuck on itb's on a normal car that would be all sorts of hassle and increased premiums etc

but obviously if you built it like that then its standard lol


help me smile

i was thinking something like an mnr vortex or fisher fury that sort of thing

anyone able to shed any light on it for me ?

LooneyTunes

8,890 posts

180 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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Dirt cheap if you have a recognised kit and go down the route of limited mileage with a specialist insurer. Doubt there are too many paying much more than £250 pa on a 3000 mile policy (fully comp, car garaged, not too many accidents or points).

Be aware though that some insurers will ask about the power of the vehicle and your history of similar pwr/weight ratios and won't quote if you can't satisfy them (and this applies to all not just young drivers).

The ones that seem to keep popping up at the moment are:
Footman James
Adrian Flux
Frank Pickles
REIS

(anyone I've missed?)

Some also include track day cover, some charge extra for it, others simply don't offer it.

Best bet is to go online and have a play about with numbers - the Footman James system is really good for this.

FlossyThePig

4,138 posts

265 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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A few years ago I had a discussion with one of the Sykes boys when I was trying to arrange club discount. They had less claims from owners who had actually built the cars themselves compared to those who had just bought a ready made weekend toy.

I'm not going to say which car had the worst record for claims in the weekend toy category.

Trustmeimadoctor

Original Poster:

14,268 posts

177 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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FlossyThePig said:
A few years ago I had a discussion with one of the Sykes boys when I was trying to arrange club discount. They had less claims from owners who had actually built the cars themselves compared to those who had just bought a ready made weekend toy.

I'm not going to say which car had the worst record for claims in the weekend toy category.
can i venture robin hood ?


smile

i used to have a vx220 and have driven 7 style cars before just never owned one unfortunately frown

i was after the weekend toy route as tbh id rather not piss my money up the wall on something i may never finish smile

AdiT

1,025 posts

179 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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Generally they're cheaper to insure than tin-tops; Especialy performance tin-tops.

My Fury was just £180 fully comp 3 years ago with a 3000miles p/a limit, but that has crept up as more of the insurers have started to load the premiums for bike engines (I'm loaded up for area and occupation as well) and it's currently circa £350 for 5000miles p/a fully comp.

There's no NCB applied to kit policies though so that won't make any difference. The replacement value you state effects the price but you can get parts only policies where the insurer pays for the parts but you do the repair and the price is reduced as a result.

I'd add SureTermDirect to the list. I've done mine through them for 3 years and although I compare prices every time they've yet to be beaten, although FrankPickles matched them this year.

jason61c

5,978 posts

196 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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Insured for a value of 17K I pay £250 fully comp.

Trustmeimadoctor

Original Poster:

14,268 posts

177 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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interesting scratchchin that does seem rather cheap smile maybe my idea isnt so stupid after all but maybe using one everyday 60 mile round trip may be a bit much smile

LooneyTunes

8,890 posts

180 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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AdiT said:
My Fury was just £180 fully comp 3 years ago with a 3000miles p/a limit, but that has crept up as more of the insurers have started to load the premiums for bike engines
Good point. Before I bought mine, I had a look at CEC vs BEC - there was a consistent 40-50% premium on BECs.

BTW, I think some insurers also require you to have use of a second car in order to qualify for their kit car policies.

greengreenwood7

958 posts

213 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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the limited mileage does help to keep the cost down, but i've personally found that the difference is marginal in pound note terms - unlimited for me and Mrs G on the tiger with a 2.0 zetec is only £150 with Frank Pickles.

Trustmeimadoctor

Original Poster:

14,268 posts

177 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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id have use of 2 others so that wouldnt be an issue one i own other is company car

Nedz

2,439 posts

196 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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-Westfield Megabusa

- 1 yr NCB
- £10k value
- 3k miles yr
- 36 yr old

-£240 year

one eyed mick

1,189 posts

183 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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Trustmeimadoctor said:
can i venture robin hood ?


smile

i used to have a vx220 and have driven 7 style cars before just never owned one unfortunately frown

i was after the weekend toy route as tbh id rather not piss my money up the wall on something i may never finish smile
Probably off topic but why the remark about Robin Hoods ? ,have you any knowledge or evidence to make a such a sweeping statement ?

Trustmeimadoctor

Original Poster:

14,268 posts

177 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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not really other than everyone ive ever seen has been a bit of a dogs dinner but we are talking 10 years ago i was looking from what i gather they have improved somewhat over the years. they did always seem to be seen as a very budget choice and very much a sierra parts bin special the worst one was one of their show cars at the harrogate show many moons ago sharp edges cheap bits it looked very tired and not a great advertisement

Waitey

1,131 posts

244 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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23 Years old
0 NCB used on the car.
5000 miles
R1 powered MK Indy
£400

fOOTMAN jAMES

pritjh

26 posts

219 months

Monday 3rd October 2011
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Have any of you joined a car club to bring the insurance cost down? I got a quote on a kit car £430 fully comp on a panther 1.8 litre with 2000 miles per annum. I have 6 years no claims on another car which they said was reflected across...

I am looking at clubs in the Reading/Oxford area.

Thanks

ChrisJ.

610 posts

262 months

Monday 3rd October 2011
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Stratos rep.
3000 miles
£170
Flux

MattStorey

3,110 posts

177 months

Tuesday 4th October 2011
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Tiger cat E1 - 2.1 litre pinto
29years old
fully comp
2000 miles
adrian flux
220£ PA

greengreenwood7

958 posts

213 months

Tuesday 4th October 2011
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pritj - SKCC - southernkitcars club has a 'useful' relationship with Frank Pickles, Barry Wilson is the guy to speak with .

Red16

598 posts

190 months

Tuesday 4th October 2011
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I'm insured with MSM Insurance 01279 870535

Fully Comprehensive with £15,000 agreed value = £480

Mac#1 Worx - ZX10R Turbo (350bhp)
30 years old
3000 miles per year

Mike N

24 posts

185 months

Tuesday 4th October 2011
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With Footman

Ford RS200 replica was £280.00 for 5k miles.

agreed value
high powered
comprehensive
garaged
alarmed
clean license
full n/c bonus






Edited by Mike N on Wednesday 5th October 00:01