Sky installation men
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OMG, had sky installed today and I've never seen over the top safety precautions as this.
1. I have a bungalow, the sky dish is to be installed about 9 feet off the ground (i.e. I can almost reach it stood on tiptoes and arm stretched up)
2. They have to DRILL 2 holes into my wall to anchor their fancy looking safety ladder to the wall (I'm talking big 20mm holes, with massive anchor bolts!)
3. There's 2 of them! One to watch and hold the ladder and one doing the work
4. They both wear hard hats
5. They both wear safety glasses
6. They both have high vis clothes on
7. They both have ear defenders on
8. They both have harness's on!
The actual installing the dish and locating it right took 3 minutes (the wires were already there). The setting up of their ladder and hard hats, etc took them 25 minutes!
What has the world come to with health and safety..........OTT or what.
1. I have a bungalow, the sky dish is to be installed about 9 feet off the ground (i.e. I can almost reach it stood on tiptoes and arm stretched up)
2. They have to DRILL 2 holes into my wall to anchor their fancy looking safety ladder to the wall (I'm talking big 20mm holes, with massive anchor bolts!)
3. There's 2 of them! One to watch and hold the ladder and one doing the work
4. They both wear hard hats
5. They both wear safety glasses
6. They both have high vis clothes on
7. They both have ear defenders on
8. They both have harness's on!
The actual installing the dish and locating it right took 3 minutes (the wires were already there). The setting up of their ladder and hard hats, etc took them 25 minutes!
What has the world come to with health and safety..........OTT or what.
Edited by audi321 on Thursday 8th September 08:28
Yep, it's rather entertaining isn't it?
Apparently they can't run a cable from the bedroom, through my loft, to the dish as the house has 3 stories. 2 would be ok, but 3 oh nooooo.
Then I pointed out that it is entirely possible to feed the cable from the loft to the outside and that by the wonder of gravity you wouldn't have to have a ladder 3 stories high as the cable would lower itself right down to dish height.
Anyway, this magic confused the sky lady I had so I did myself in the end.
Apparently they can't run a cable from the bedroom, through my loft, to the dish as the house has 3 stories. 2 would be ok, but 3 oh nooooo.
Then I pointed out that it is entirely possible to feed the cable from the loft to the outside and that by the wonder of gravity you wouldn't have to have a ladder 3 stories high as the cable would lower itself right down to dish height.
Anyway, this magic confused the sky lady I had so I did myself in the end.
nixon1 said:
Then I pointed out that it is entirely possible to feed the cable from the loft to the outside and that by the wonder of gravity you wouldn't have to have a ladder 3 stories high as the cable would lower itself right down to dish height.
Anyway, this magic confused the sky lady I had so I did myself in the end.
Does the wonder of gravity then clip the cable to wall as it travels down to where the dish would be? Don't blame Sky, blame the H&S brigade! (I once did this very job many moons ago and it was the sAnyway, this magic confused the sky lady I had so I did myself in the end.
ttest job I have ever done. Still, it was better than claiming benifit).I had Sky booked to install my dish they arrived took one look at the where it needed to be mounted on the roof and informed me due to Health and Safety they no longer have ladders long enough to reach my roof...they suggested I pay a private contractor to install, I declined so no Sky for me.
I had Sky installed in a second floor flat about 11 years ago and to fit the dish he actually climbed out the window with his drill in one hand and holding on with the other, his whole body was outside and I could just see one leg and one arm. Nutter.
Things have changed it would seem.
Things have changed it would seem.
Strange, had sky man fit a dish to the house we just moved in (same guy as last two houses), he was on his own.
Straight up the ladder (no bolts) up on the roof (wire had to come from other side or something) no harness, job jobbed pretty quick look on my fathers face though ( he's "elf n safety" manager ) was priceless
Do sky use their own guys or contract it out?, maybe that's why op had a different procedure to mine?.
Straight up the ladder (no bolts) up on the roof (wire had to come from other side or something) no harness, job jobbed pretty quick look on my fathers face though ( he's "elf n safety" manager ) was priceless
Do sky use their own guys or contract it out?, maybe that's why op had a different procedure to mine?.
randomwalk said:
I had Sky booked to install my dish they arrived took one look at the where it needed to be mounted on the roof and informed me due to Health and Safety they no longer have ladders long enough to reach my roof...they suggested I pay a private contractor to install, I declined so no Sky for me.
why not DIY? it's the easiest thing in the world to do tbh
It's the way the world is now I'm afraid, I work as a maintenance engineer and we've been banned from using adjustable shifting spanners because some bozo wasn't using one properly, injured himself ,and now has a claim going against the company. Now I work with alot of old and foreign machinery so imagine needing to use the correct spanner, when it could be metric, imperial, AF, whitworth etc. etc. when you could just use an adjustable to get the job done quicker and easier. Madness.
audi321 said:
2. They have to DRILL 2 holes into my wall to anchor their fancy looking safety ladder to the wall (I'm talking big 20mm holes, with massive anchor bolts!)
My neighbour had cavity wall insulation installed and they did the above.OK, they have to drill the lower holes anyway, but I was amazed they went to the trouble of putting the anchor bolts in and attaching a strap to the ladder everytime they moved it. It's not like the ladder could slip - it was footed against my house.
FIL upgraded his Sky and basicially they had to run a cable from the lounge, up the wall, through the ceiling into the loft (it's a Bungalow), through the loft to the rear external wall where the dish is.
He gets the full sports package so whatever that costs.
Sky man refused to go into the loft as he was permitted to.
He gets the full sports package so whatever that costs.
Sky man refused to go into the loft as he was permitted to.
Sir Bagalot said:
audi321 said:
2. They have to DRILL 2 holes into my wall to anchor their fancy looking safety ladder to the wall (I'm talking big 20mm holes, with massive anchor bolts!)
And you let them drill two 20mm holes in your external wall simply to anchor their ladder?
This drilling holes for ladders is nonsense.
The work at height regs 2005 state that "a ladder shall be so positioned as to ensure its stability during use" and "a portable ladder shall be prevented from slipping during use by- securing the stiles at or near their upper or lower ends; an effective anti-slip or other effective stability device; or any other arrangement of equivalent effectiveness".
The work at height regs 2005 state that "a ladder shall be so positioned as to ensure its stability during use" and "a portable ladder shall be prevented from slipping during use by- securing the stiles at or near their upper or lower ends; an effective anti-slip or other effective stability device; or any other arrangement of equivalent effectiveness".
the one that came to do ours dish already there builder put it in all he had to do was push cable through pre drilled hole in soffit and connect to a new lnb he wouldnt as he would have to go in the loft all he had to do was push cable through hole not go up there
his solution run cables around outside of house when house was already wired for it
his solution run cables around outside of house when house was already wired for it
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