Undeliverable mail

[Joolzb]

Hi computer people,
I'm sending email from a mail server on a remote machine and for some reason they're getting returned by the likes of AOL and hotmail, the ones to me at blueyonder are fine.

Anybody any ideas, if you need more info I can post that. I'm using the Persists object to send.

cheers
Joolzb

[JamieBeeston]

AOL is very strict on mail servers.

You need to have valid Reverse DNS on your IP before it will accept your mail.

This is fine for legitimate servers, but not so fine for those running mailservers on cheap hosting outfits.

Simply ask the host of the remote box to ensure valid Reverse DNS is in place.

Hope this helps.

[TheHobbit]

Just to clarify, some also require that the name that you get when your lookup the IP matches the IP you get when you lookup the name you get when looking up the IP

So....

bash $ host host.domain.com
host.domain.com has address 192.168.0.25
bash $ host 192.168.0.25
25.0.168.192.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer host.domain.com.
bash $

[Joolzb]

Cheers all for those pointers, I'll check both out.

[TheHobbit]

if you post one of the "bounces" you get back here (after snipping personal content) I, or someone will be able to give you a better idea of why its getting bounced......

[_dobbo_]

TheHobbit said:

bash $

Whoah! That doesn't look like a command prompt to me! I think you meant:

c:>




edited cos i can't do smileys!

>> Edited by _dobbo_ on Friday 11th June 12:42

[Joolzb]

TheHobbit said:

if you post one of the "bounces" you get back here (after snipping personal content) I, or someone will be able to give you a better idea of why its getting bounced......

Ok I'll do that when I get in tonight.

cheers

[TheHobbit]

_dobbo_ said:

TheHobbit said: bash $ Whoah! That doesn't look like a command prompt to me! I think you meant: c:> edited cos i can't do smileys! >> Edited by _dobbo_ on Friday 11th June 12:42

that's not a command prompt, that's just a box they give you to make you think you have control over the 32 bit extensions and graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition.



sorry, couldn't resist

[Joolzb]

TheHobbit said:

if you post one of the "bounces" you get back here (after snipping personal content) I, or someone will be able to give you a better idea of why its getting bounced......

You asked for it..

Received: from smtp-in1.blueyonder.co.uk ([172.23.146.12]) by cluster5 with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329);
Fri, 11 Jun 2004 18:22:42 +0100
Received: from eback02.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.53.213]) by smtp-in1.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600);
Fri, 11 Jun 2004 16:49:51 +0100
Received: from [172.23.164.207] (helo=anti-virus02-10.blueyonder.co.uk)
by eback02.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.32)
id 1BYoHr-0002uL-3O
for [ME]@blueyonder.co.uk; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 16:49:47 +0100
Received: from [80.94.196.10] (helo=ARES.serverdns.net)
by exim13.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.34)
id 1BYoHq-0006gt-OE
for {ME]@blueyonder.co.uk; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 16:49:46 +0100
Received: from SMTP32-FWD by [MYSERVER}.co.uk
(SMTP32) id A0000031C; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 16:51:53 +0100
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 16:40:28 +0100
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
From: "Postmaster" <[e-mail]>
Sender: <[e-mail]>
To: <info@[MYSERVER}.co.uk>
Subject: Undeliverable Mail
X-Mailer: <SMTP32 v20000614>
X-Sent-To: [me]@blueyonder.co.uk
Return-Path: [e-mail]
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jun 2004 15:49:51.0159 (UTC) FILETIME=[BB3E3C70:01C44FCB]

[TheHobbit]

hmm.... do you have any (more) of the body? those look like the headers.
should say something like "this is so and so, and we can't deliver your mail for such and such a reason"

[Joolzb]

Yep, here it is, sorry bout that.

********************
Original message follows.

Received: from AspEmail [10.2.2.62] by ARES.serverdns.net
(SMTPD32-6.06) id A26A2B4B0274; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 16:40:26 +0100
From: "Me" <info@[myserver].co.uk>
To: [RECEPIENT]@aol.com
Reply-To: info@[myserver].co.uk
Subject: Entry notification for [BLOKE]
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 16:37:30 +0100
MIME-Version: 1.0
Message-Id: <200406111640468.SM01200@AspEmail>


the message body is here but that's just text
****************************

That doesn't look like it's gonna be much help to me but that's all I got back.

>> Edited by Joolzb on Friday 11th June 20:02

[TheHobbit]

hmm, you're right, they're not being very helpful. all I can suggest is asking [e-mail] why your mail is being bounced. I have some anti-spam stuff on my mail address... send me a mail through my profile, and then we can do a couple of tests and see if my mail system picks up anything odd that they might not like.....

Cheers,

Karl

[Joolzb]

TheHobbit YHM.

[TheHobbit]

Joolzb said:

TheHobbit YHM.

And you

[JamieBeeston]

Joolzb said:

Yep, here it is, sorry bout that. ******************** Original message follows. Received: from AspEmail [10.2.2.62] by ARES.serverdns.net

root@Mook:~> host ARES.serverdns.net
ares.serverdns.net has address 80.94.198.40

root@Mook:~> host 80.94.198.40
Host not found.

No Reverse DNS on your Mail Server.


telnet ARES.serverdns.net 25
Trying 80.94.198.40...
telnet: connect to address 80.94.198.40: Connection refused
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host

no public facing mail server on your mail server

I will wager, with AOL, you wont pass their 'anti-spam' checks.

Try getting RevDNS sorted,

[Joolzb]

Cheers chaps for the help.

I've contacted my website host and await a reply to the reverse DNS setup request I sent them.