Brake Master Cylinder Help

Brake Master Cylinder Help

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Dave Westy

Original Poster:

75 posts

222 months

Saturday 10th September 2011
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I'm struggling to understand how to solve my brake problem

I have a Westfield with a bias pedal box. I have Willwood calipers all round and Willwood master cylinders

The brakes work well but I only have about 1" of travel at the pedal and so not much feel. I would idealy like 3-4" of travel

The bias is set towards the front and when I press the pedal the front master cylinder actuator rod moves about 1" whilst the rear moves about 1/8" - so does that mean I need more travel in the rear master cylinder
The Front master cylinder is .625" and the rear is .750"

The obvious answer is to alter the ratio of the pedal - That's not that easy.

It looks like I need more travel on the rear master actuator rod, but as I understand it if I reduce the bore of the rear master cylinder that will increase the pressure to the rears and make the problem worse. I am already using the largest rear cylinder bore and the smallest fron cylinder bore available from willwood.

Hopefully there's someone clever out there who can explain what I should do to give me a longer pedal and more feel.

Thanks in advance

Dave

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

270 months

Sunday 11th September 2011
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For a fixed caliper piston area and pedal ratio, the only way to increase stroke is to reduce the bore of the master cylinders. Since the volume displaced by a master cylinder is proportional to the square of it's diameter, a small change can make quite a big difference.

Unfortunately 0.625 is the smallest commonly available Girling-type master cylinder, so unless you can source a smaller one then your options appear rather limited. Reducing the bore of the rear master cylinder isn't going to improve things very much since you would have have to wind the bias bar even further toward the front to maintain the same bias.

Changing the pedal ratio looks like the only sensible option.

Dave Westy

Original Poster:

75 posts

222 months

Monday 12th September 2011
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Thanks for the response

I'm thinking of fitting a smaller rear master cylinder and a pressure reducing device in the rear line - is this a sensible option?

Dave