Mondeo fuel pump, help needed.
Mondeo fuel pump, help needed.
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General Madness

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365 posts

178 months

Monday 12th September 2011
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Hello all,

This is my first post but i have been leeching various snippets of information from the well informed members of PH for the last few months.

Lets get to it,

I am now the owner of a Ford Mondeo 2.0l Petrol Ghia X, Y registration.
This Car belonged to my parents who have sunk vast amounts of money into keeping it on the road.
They have reached breaking point and took the plunge to buy a new motor, giving me the mondeo.

Basically i have been informed by the AA and the mechanics currently storing the car that all i require is a new or used fuel pump.

I intend to visit my local breakers tomorrow to obtain said fuel pump.

Can you please confirm the following for me.

I am led to believe that i can go to the breakers, armed with a selection of tools and remove a fuel pump from an equivilant car by accessing it underneath the rear seat behind the driver.

I need to know the following,

Is the above correct?

Can i obtain the new(ish) pump then install it in my car easily?

Do i need to replace any other parts while im at it?

What tools do i need?

If these questions can be answered for me and help get me back on the road then i will be eternally grateful.

Cheers

Dave


HellDiver

5,708 posts

208 months

Monday 12th September 2011
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Most breakers don't let members of the public near the cars. You go in and they lift the part off the shelf.

You can get pumps for £40 off EBay, too.


General Madness

Original Poster:

365 posts

178 months

Monday 12th September 2011
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This breakers seen to be happy as i have been before to remove top mount plates for a meganes front suspension.

Anyway, it now seems that a mechanic friend is looking into it for me now so shouldnt have to worry about it now.

cheers.

GaryST220

970 posts

210 months

Monday 12th September 2011
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You'll need one of these.


General Madness

Original Poster:

365 posts

178 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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Hello again,

I have had a used fuel pump fitted by a mechanic and the car now runs. it does however have a misfire that we believe is due to old or faulty spark plugs, i intend on replacing these today.

I am however noticing a strong smell of fuel when driving the car. Do you think this will be due to unburnt fuel (misfire) or could it be anything else i should worry about???

Thought theres no point starting a new thread.

Any help appreciated.

Cheers

GaryST220

970 posts

210 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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Open the fuel filler cap - if you hear a vacuum noise then the tank is sealed and the smell of petrol may disappear shortly (you may need to use a full tank of fuel prior). If there’s no suction noise then I would suggest the fuel seal (the large black plastic ring) has not been fastened properly (you can check this under the seats but it’s not very practical).

Of course there could fuel leaking from a hose, but if that were the case the fuel line would lose pressure and the car would probably cut out.


General Madness

Original Poster:

365 posts

178 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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Gary you have been very helpful.

I will do exactly that, just waiting to finish work for the day.
do you happen to know if i can purchase a new pump to tank seal seperatley from say Pentland components or such?

GaryST220

970 posts

210 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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There are two pieces to the lid; a hard plastic ring and an inner rubber seal. I find it most unlikely that either of yours are damaged, but if they are I may have a spare you can have.

I'd give it a few days to see if the smell resides before worrying - leave the windows down during the day.

Now get those plugs changed and enjoy the car smile

General Madness

Original Poster:

365 posts

178 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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I have changed the plugs and now the misfire ha gone amd i am very happy with the performance of the engine.

I do however still have a strong smell of petrol after a drive.
I have had a sniff around and i am positive that the odour is coming from the engine compartment and not from the rear.

Any ideas??? Fuel economy still seems to be poor.

Rickyy

6,618 posts

245 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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General Madness said:
I have changed the plugs and now the misfire ha gone amd i am very happy with the performance of the engine.

I do however still have a strong smell of petrol after a drive.
I have had a sniff around and i am positive that the odour is coming from the engine compartment and not from the rear.

Any ideas??? Fuel economy still seems to be poor.
No idea on the smell, but I have the same engine in my Focus and you're doing well to get poor fuel economy, because mine is dreadful! 30MPG average, has been as low as 27!

General Madness

Original Poster:

365 posts

178 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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Cheers for the info,

I am currently getting around 20 mpg. Absolutley disgusting.

The fuel odour is worse after a little bit of spirited driving, it far too tempting.

If anyone else can give me some advice please, its really needed.

General Madness

Original Poster:

365 posts

178 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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Ok, i think the fueling issue has been sorted.
The pressure test valve on the injector rail was leaking, it was leaking bad! At one point the fuel was spraying out almost 6 inches high.

Anyway, only issue now is the rev hunting when idling, it rises to 2200 rpm.

If anyone can help with this as im at a loss???

martycossie

90 posts

200 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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breth pipe split under in let manifold split

General Madness

Original Poster:

365 posts

178 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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Hello again,

I have encountered yet another issue.
There has been a strong smell of fuel when driving, it turns out that this is due to a broken clip on a fuel line where it should secure to the fuel pump.

Can anyone help me by telling me how i go about repairing this or replacing???

Thanks

GaryST220

970 posts

210 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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General Madness said:
Hello again,

I have encountered yet another issue.
There has been a strong smell of fuel when driving, it turns out that this is due to a broken clip on a fuel line where it should secure to the fuel pump.

Can anyone help me by telling me how i go about repairing this or replacing???

Thanks
Is it actually leaking fuel though? The fuel clips are a 'use once' consumable, to replace them you have to lower the tank and the associated components that are in the way. Either the clips are secure, or they are not - if it were to be leaking I'd question the rubber seals that sit between the hose and the pump.


General Madness

Original Poster:

365 posts

178 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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Yes there was actually leaking fuel.

I have been to my local breakers and now replaced the pipe amd clip.

No they are not use once, quite easily removable but if your not careful then they are also easily breakable.

Anyway,

Cheers for the advice but is sorted now.

Ps no need to drop the tank either.

General Madness

Original Poster:

365 posts

178 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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Yes there was actually leaking fuel.

I have been to my local breakers and now replaced the pipe amd clip.

No they are not use once, quite easily removable but if your not careful then they are also easily breakable.

Anyway,

Cheers for the advice but is sorted now.

Ps no need to drop the tank either.

General Madness

Original Poster:

365 posts

178 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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Yes there was actually leaking fuel.

I have been to my local breakers and now replaced the pipe amd clip.

No they are not use once, quite easily removable but if your not careful then they are also easily breakable.

Anyway,

Cheers for the advice but is sorted now.

Ps no need to drop the tank either.

GaryST220

970 posts

210 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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General Madness said:
Yes there was actually leaking fuel.

I have been to my local breakers and now replaced the pipe amd clip.

No they are not use once, quite easily removable but if your not careful then they are also easily breakable.

Anyway,

Cheers for the advice but is sorted now.

Ps no need to drop the tank either.
The fuel hose that runs from the pump to the fuel filter? I'm pretty sure mine had 'do not reuse' (or words to that effect) printed on them - I think this is because the plastic clips can suffer from fatigue once tampered with.