11 car drag race video - GTR, GT3RS, 458, LFA and more
Discussion
AndrewMontgomery said:
Always interesting to see these sorts of races but why a Cayman and GT3 for a drag race? Turbo surely?
Indeed. If a drag race then the Porsche to use is the PDK Turbo S under launch control, and given the prices of most of the other cars in the test there is no excuse - it is a cooked result.DiscoColin said:
Indeed. If a drag race then the Porsche to use is the PDK Turbo S under launch control, and given the prices of most of the other cars in the test there is no excuse - it is a cooked result.
Because no Turbo S owner was around or wanted to lend their car to do it...drivers of a Turbo S will know how devastatingly fast it is!The video was fun for what it is. I don't care about 1/4 time, it's about the driving and in gear acceleration.
Koing
Edited by Koing on Wednesday 14th September 11:02
Once more on the GTR thing.
The Datsun handles brilliantly as well, goes round the Nurburgring lots quicker than any Turbo S (and GT3 RS for that matter ) costs , without a normal plethora of expensive options like all Turbos come with, just over half the price, is tuneable easily to a point where it would have hammered everything else there and now comes with free servicing.
Its the performance bargain of all time.
The Datsun handles brilliantly as well, goes round the Nurburgring lots quicker than any Turbo S (and GT3 RS for that matter ) costs , without a normal plethora of expensive options like all Turbos come with, just over half the price, is tuneable easily to a point where it would have hammered everything else there and now comes with free servicing.
Its the performance bargain of all time.
Diamond blue said:
Once more on the GTR thing.
The Datsun handles brilliantly as well, goes round the Nurburgring lots quicker than any Turbo S (and GT3 RS for that matter ) costs , without a normal plethora of expensive options like all Turbos come with, just over half the price, is tuneable easily to a point where it would have hammered everything else there and now comes with free servicing.
Its the performance bargain of all time.
At the risk of reopening an old debate, though the GTR is hugely capable, I suspect a GT3 would have a lower overall life cycle cost than a GTR if both are heavily tracked.The Datsun handles brilliantly as well, goes round the Nurburgring lots quicker than any Turbo S (and GT3 RS for that matter ) costs , without a normal plethora of expensive options like all Turbos come with, just over half the price, is tuneable easily to a point where it would have hammered everything else there and now comes with free servicing.
Its the performance bargain of all time.
Diamond blue said:
Once more on the GTR thing.
The Datsun handles brilliantly as well, goes round the Nurburgring lots quicker than any Turbo S (and GT3 RS for that matter ) costs , without a normal plethora of expensive options like all Turbos come with, just over half the price, is tuneable easily to a point where it would have hammered everything else there and now comes with free servicing.
Its the performance bargain of all time.
Not so sure about this. I would have thought the Turbo s would be quicker in the drag. Plus round the Nurburgring my money would go on the RS. Would be nice too see a Lambo and Mclaren in this race.The Datsun handles brilliantly as well, goes round the Nurburgring lots quicker than any Turbo S (and GT3 RS for that matter ) costs , without a normal plethora of expensive options like all Turbos come with, just over half the price, is tuneable easily to a point where it would have hammered everything else there and now comes with free servicing.
Its the performance bargain of all time.
cayman-black said:
Not so sure about this. I would have thought the Turbo s would be quicker in the drag. Plus round the Nurburgring my money would go on the RS. Would be nice too see a Lambo and Mclaren in this race.
I dont know what the 4.0 has done but the 3.8 is some way slower, 7:24 for the GTR and 7:32 I think for the GT3. Having said that, I doubt the Nissan could keep it up for very long. Although the car is very quick on a circuit its temps rise quickly and it would be back in the pits cooling off when the porsche is still hammering round.Turbo S was quicker from rest than the 2010 GTR certainly but the new model is faster again.And bear in mind the GTR is beating the specialist track day version of the 911 round the Ring, its miles faster than a Turbo S in such circumstances. Think GT2 RS !
I think the McLaren would have won this drag race for what its worth but by a length or 2, its got the 458 beaten by a similar margin to the GTR.
The GTR is a steal at the price any way you look at it
Diamond blue said:
Once more on the GTR thing.
The Datsun handles brilliantly as well, goes round the Nurburgring lots quicker than any Turbo S (and GT3 RS for that matter ) costs , without a normal plethora of expensive options like all Turbos come with, just over half the price, is tuneable easily to a point where it would have hammered everything else there and now comes with free servicing.
Its the performance bargain of all time.
assuming your performance needs end after lap 2 for a cool down. hauling all that weight around and stopping it cooks that car fast. it has amazing performance for sure but not so much that i can also rewrite basic physics.The Datsun handles brilliantly as well, goes round the Nurburgring lots quicker than any Turbo S (and GT3 RS for that matter ) costs , without a normal plethora of expensive options like all Turbos come with, just over half the price, is tuneable easily to a point where it would have hammered everything else there and now comes with free servicing.
Its the performance bargain of all time.
Edited by fioran0 on Wednesday 14th September 17:36
Diamond blue said:
I dont know what the 4.0 has done but the 3.8 is some way slower, 7:24 for the GTR and 7:32 I think for the GT3. Having said that, I doubt the Nissan could keep it up for very long. Although the car is very quick on a circuit its temps rise quickly and it would be back in the pits cooling off when the porsche is still hammering round.
Turbo S was quicker from rest than the 2010 GTR certainly but the new model is faster again.And bear in mind the GTR is beating the specialist track day version of the 911 round the Ring, its miles faster than a Turbo S in such circumstances. Think GT2 RS !
I think the McLaren would have won this drag race for what its worth but by a length or 2, its got the 458 beaten by a similar margin to the GTR.
The GTR is a steal at the price any way you look at it
well not really, if you want brand image, racing pedigree or infact enjoy the feeling of finesse when driving its pretty far behind most everything else. id have a second hand GT3 over a GTR any day of the week for the same money but thats just me. Turbo S was quicker from rest than the 2010 GTR certainly but the new model is faster again.And bear in mind the GTR is beating the specialist track day version of the 911 round the Ring, its miles faster than a Turbo S in such circumstances. Think GT2 RS !
I think the McLaren would have won this drag race for what its worth but by a length or 2, its got the 458 beaten by a similar margin to the GTR.
The GTR is a steal at the price any way you look at it
to follow on from my above post, and your agreement up there. the thing with those N-ring lap times is that most of the cars up at the top could hammer out their time lap after lap, on almost any day you decided to roll up with any customers car. the GTR hasnt gotten anywhere near with non nissan scheduled tests and theres no way it could do for a second lap right away never mind a third of fourth. this is where the real performance comes into its own. its great value for what it is only if you dont care that i can only do it for short period of time.
its like being faster than usain bolt for 20 meters, impressive in its own right but not much more than a party trick.
all imho of course. as we all see and read beaten to death, many think its the most awesome thing they have driven and they are entitled to that opinion.
one should always remember that just because something is the best thing you have tasted doesnt mean that it is therefor the best.
fioran0 said:
assuming your track run ends after lap 2 for a cool down. hauling all that weight around and stopping it cooks that car fast. it has amazing performance for sure but not so much that i can also rewrite basic physics.
It would be interesting to see how long it could last around say donnington before the cars performance deteroriates?Best motoring runs a test of 5 laps around a circuit. It's always interesting to see the brakes on some cars fade after about 3-4 laps.
Koing
fioran0 said:
well not really, if you want brand image, racing pedigree or infact enjoy the feeling of finesse when driving its pretty far behind most everything else. id have a second hand GT3 over a GTR any day of the week for the same money but thats just me.
to follow on from my above post, and your agreement up there. the thing with those N-ring lap times is that most of the cars up at the top could hammer out their time lap after lap, on almost any day you decided to roll up with any customers car. the GTR hasnt gotten anywhere near with non nissan scheduled tests and theres no way it could do for a second lap right away never mind a third of fourth. this is where the real performance comes into its own. its great value for what it is only if you dont care that i can only do it for short period of time.
its like being faster than usain bolt for 20 meters, impressive in its own right but not much more than a party trick.
all imho of course. as we all see and read beaten to death, many think its the most awesome thing they have driven and they are entitled to that opinion.
one should always remember that just because something is the best thing you have tasted doesnt mean that it is therefor the best.
Fair enough and you have a point about temps getting high. Not brakes really, they're up to it on the whole just not as good as Porsche brakes (Nothing is) GT3s may be able to take it but I'm not so sure all the other contenders you allude to could do much better then the GTR.to follow on from my above post, and your agreement up there. the thing with those N-ring lap times is that most of the cars up at the top could hammer out their time lap after lap, on almost any day you decided to roll up with any customers car. the GTR hasnt gotten anywhere near with non nissan scheduled tests and theres no way it could do for a second lap right away never mind a third of fourth. this is where the real performance comes into its own. its great value for what it is only if you dont care that i can only do it for short period of time.
its like being faster than usain bolt for 20 meters, impressive in its own right but not much more than a party trick.
all imho of course. as we all see and read beaten to death, many think its the most awesome thing they have driven and they are entitled to that opinion.
one should always remember that just because something is the best thing you have tasted doesnt mean that it is therefor the best.
But if it is brand image you buy into thats something Nissan cant hold up against Porsche true enough.
But its something of a conceit based on image rather than more substantial factors I would suggest. How would you feel about a Ferrari owner looking down on your "inferior" brand, bristling with indignation I would suggest.Do you think Audis have racing pedigree because they've won 10 out of 11 LeMans 24hr races. Thats rather more illustrious than Porsche in recent years.Its a question of marketing budget mostly, not a romantic viewpoint , but true enough.
I have had 3 GT3s and covered 60,000 miles in total in them,they are fantastic, a few other modern Porsches and 16000 miles with a GTR. If you really think the Nissan is not a proper interactive drivers car shot through with character and some fabulous engineering I would suggest you have not driven one. There are good reasons why those who have are so impressed.
Diamond blue said:
How would you feel about a Ferrari owner looking down on your "inferior" brand, bristling with indignation I would suggest.Do you think Audis have racing pedigree because they've won 10 out of 11 LeMans 24hr races. Thats rather more illustrious than Porsche in recent years.Its a question of marketing budget mostly, not a romantic viewpoint , but true enough.
Since we're on the subject of motorsport, neither Ferrari nor Nissan manufacture a car that can be taken out of the showroom and successfully campaigned in a 24 hour race without any mods other than safety related. Audi's motorsport department has a pedigree worth bragging about, but I don't see the connection between their LMP cars and their current road cars.Gassing Station | Porsche General | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff