Used BMW from a dealer - cash discount
Used BMW from a dealer - cash discount
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Snowboy

Original Poster:

8,028 posts

171 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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If a BMW main dealer has a car on for 22,950 and I'm paying cash, what sort of discount can I reasonably expect to get?
20k?
22k?
(That's the price paid, not the discount, before the pedants get started. smile)

I know the suggestions about buying end of month, being firm, pushing and haggling all the way.. but, I'd be interested in other peoples experiences and suggestions.

E55 Max

1,189 posts

192 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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What would the benefit to them be in this, why should they offer a discount for cash?

ZOLLAR

19,914 posts

193 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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IIRC reading various threads on here not much discount, don't dealers and indies make the money from finance?.

Risotto

3,931 posts

232 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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I wouldn't have thought you'd get a discount for paying cash at all in this day and age. From the dealer's point of view, it's just extra hassle.

Why would you want to anyway? Surely a debit or credit card is safer - although that still wouldn't offer any incentive for them to give you a discount.



Edited by Risotto on Wednesday 14th September 15:04

Johnboy Mac

2,666 posts

198 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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E55 Max said:
What would the benefit to them be in this, why should they offer a discount for cash?
Bingo!


angry jock

1,005 posts

219 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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As has been said already no benefit to the dealer giving you any discount for cash. Depending on how the dealer price points its car you may be able to get a (small) discount for no part ex should you not have one.

carreauchompeur

18,288 posts

224 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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Jesus Christ, it's nearly as bad as the constant stream of muppets I have sending me messages about my car, reasonably priced at £2695-

"2000 for cash bruv?"

Really, how else do you think I'd accept your money? Tits. I packed three chancers away who had come from Manchester-Bristol. Car very honestly described/priced and I'd agreed a price of £2450 over e-mail, (car was up for £2900) with the caveat that this was not at all negotiable. Under any circumstances.

Turned up and decided car was "a bit rough". £2k cash bruv?

No thanks, bye.

They looked surprised.

Back on topic- No significant discount, although I imagine 10pc might be achievable...


angry jock

1,005 posts

219 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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carreauchompeur said:
Back on topic- No significant discount, although I imagine 10pc might be achievable...
I would suggest that this would not be achievable unless the car is 10% overpriced. How much margin do you think that dealers keep on their used stock, bearing in mind that there is a lot of competition out there and factoring in cost of VAT paid, recon, warranty and breakdown cover? I would suggest that the dealer would probably have between £1500 and £2000 left in it after all this is paid.

markmullen

15,877 posts

254 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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carreauchompeur said:
Back on topic- No significant discount, although I imagine 10pc might be achievable...
Unless they particularly want rid of it (eg it is going 90 days and will be swapped out to another branch losing them a fortune) then 10% is very optimistic.

6BMW

2,717 posts

227 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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Assuming you mean "no finance" by the term cash...or do you mean hard bank notes in which case they will only accept £10,000 in notes due to Money Laundering legislation.

I have always bought my AUCs without finance outright and managed good discounts but this depends on a car.

Once picked up a 645ci convertible in snowey December for a £3500 off the sticker price.

Picked up an X5 in the middle of summer for £2500 off the sticker price.

And once picked up a 120d Sport on the last day of the month for - wait for it (NO JOKES) a £5k discount!!

So id start with £20,000 and if you can prove you are a serious buyer you may be lucky and surprised a the same time.

What I find normally works for me is to offer my debit card details immediately if they can seal a deal straight away.

Most of the times I have done this via phone as the dealers up North tend to give better discounts than the ones around London.

HTH smile


SteveS Cup

1,996 posts

180 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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You have more chance of getting money off or "dealer contribution" when getting it on finance.

If you have £20k cash, pay the finance off after a month.

Shimples.

Snowboy

Original Poster:

8,028 posts

171 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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Appologies for not being clear.
When I said "cash" I meant "Not Financed and no part ex".

Just a simple single payment transaction and drive away.

Thanks to mr 6BMW for the sensible answers.






6BMW

2,717 posts

227 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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Snowboy said:
Appologies for not being clear.
When I said "cash" I meant "Not Financed and no part ex".

Just a simple single payment transaction and drive away.
yes all my examples above are when I have been in this situation smile

carreauchompeur

18,288 posts

224 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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In that case, time it correctly in line with the sales targets and you could be onto a winner!

GroundEffect

13,864 posts

176 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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Sounds good but it's a real pity there's not many Z4Ms on the AUC system...

Johnboy Mac

2,666 posts

198 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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Snowboy said:
Appologies for not being clear.
When I said "cash" I meant "Not Financed and no part ex".

Just a simple single payment transaction and drive away.
If it's the car you want and it's seems to be priced ok'ish, just ask the dealer how much they'll take and go from there. If you don't ask you won't get, as sometimes there's more flexibility in some particular stock than others. Good luck.

Monty Python

4,813 posts

217 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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It depends a lot on the model in question - if it's one that's relatively easy to sell (320d for example), they're unlikely to budge much. On the other hand, if it's one of the larger engined ones that aren't selling as well, you may find they're more flexible.

At the end of the day, if you're not using finance, the salesman won't get his bonus.

snorkel sucker

2,698 posts

223 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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Few 'tards on here aren't there....

I'd go in and make an offer you are happy with. If it's a no no for a cash sale then take the finance, haggle a decent APR / discount, make your first payment and then pay off the balance.

Zwoelf

25,867 posts

226 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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How is the car priced against other similar age, mileage and specification examples in the AUC network?

It might be £2k below all the rest, in which case, why should they take a penny off?

If a dealer can give that much off, then it is a false discount and the car is over-priced at its asking price.

Big E 118

2,456 posts

189 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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Purely from my experience I'd say if you go in there and tell them you want 5% off and you'll buy now then they'll take it without any further negotiation (especially if it's a bigger engined car atm).

I've used this before when I've wanted a car, I can't be bothered with all the jesturing, going away/coming back etc for a few hundred quid. 5% off sticker, deal done and walk out happy you've got some money off and knowing you'll be picking up a new car as soon as it's prepped.

What is it you've seen?