And the 'ring record goes back to the Viper
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Hope the Lexus boys enjoyed their time in the spotlight for having the fastest time around the Nurburgring because the Viper just rained on their party. The Viper ACR just smashed it again with a time of 7:12.xx The non-street legal ACR-X did it in 7:03.xx
[quote]As you may already be aware, there is no official production car record at the Nürburgring. That hasn't stopped well-meaning automakers from warming up the great German marketing machine in an attempt to outdo previous marks set by their competitors, and that includes the fine folks at Dodge.
Way back in 2008, Dodge shipped one of its Viper ACR coupes to the 'Ring with the goal of setting a blistering time. Suffice it to say, the outing was a complete success. For quite some time, Dodge claimed with a time of 7:22.1 that it held the fastest lap time of any production car around the famous circuit.
Since then, a number of manufacturers and machines have bested that still-stellar time, notably the 2012 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 (7:19.63) and more recently the Lexus LFA Nürburgring Edition (7:14). Now, according to a new forum post by Viper Club of America president Marv Spatz, Dodge Viper owners can cheer the return of the crown, because a Viper ACR has reportedly just reclaimed the title with an unofficial time of "7:12 and change."
Keen enthusiasts will note that the Dodge Viper is no longer in production, so SRT sourced a pair of brand-new 2010 models from Tomball Dodge of Texas before having them prepped for action by Mintgen Motorsports, a shop just down the road from the Nordschleife.
No word yet on who was behind the wheel or how many shots at the record they took, but we have a feeling that once the results are certified, all that information will be released in a hail of press releases, in-car videos and so on. For now, check out our exclusive gallery of the two Vipers making their attempts.
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http://www.autoblog.com/2011/09/15/dodge-viper-lay...
[quote]As you may already be aware, there is no official production car record at the Nürburgring. That hasn't stopped well-meaning automakers from warming up the great German marketing machine in an attempt to outdo previous marks set by their competitors, and that includes the fine folks at Dodge.
Way back in 2008, Dodge shipped one of its Viper ACR coupes to the 'Ring with the goal of setting a blistering time. Suffice it to say, the outing was a complete success. For quite some time, Dodge claimed with a time of 7:22.1 that it held the fastest lap time of any production car around the famous circuit.
Since then, a number of manufacturers and machines have bested that still-stellar time, notably the 2012 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 (7:19.63) and more recently the Lexus LFA Nürburgring Edition (7:14). Now, according to a new forum post by Viper Club of America president Marv Spatz, Dodge Viper owners can cheer the return of the crown, because a Viper ACR has reportedly just reclaimed the title with an unofficial time of "7:12 and change."
Keen enthusiasts will note that the Dodge Viper is no longer in production, so SRT sourced a pair of brand-new 2010 models from Tomball Dodge of Texas before having them prepped for action by Mintgen Motorsports, a shop just down the road from the Nordschleife.
No word yet on who was behind the wheel or how many shots at the record they took, but we have a feeling that once the results are certified, all that information will be released in a hail of press releases, in-car videos and so on. For now, check out our exclusive gallery of the two Vipers making their attempts.
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http://www.autoblog.com/2011/09/15/dodge-viper-lay...
j123 said:
Maybe a pattern that at least "stock" or close to the fastest cars tend to be front engined. Unless you get into all out race spec. Hmmm. j
It's a blurry distinction to be honest. Most LMP1 or Group C cars could probably be made road legal with a handbrake and a couple of other bits and bobs. That applies to the Group C Porsche that did a 6m11s...RobM77 said:
yes: It's a blurry distinction to be honest. Most LMP1 or Group C cars could probably be made road legal with a handbrake and a couple of other bits and bobs. That applies to the Group C Porsche that did a 6m11s...
The one not dis-similar to this road car you mean? 
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2934834.htm
chilled901 said:
Keen enthusiasts will note that the Dodge Viper is no longer in production, so SRT sourced a pair of brand-new 2010 models from Tomball Dodge of Texas before having them prepped for action by Mintgen Motorsports, a shop just down the road from the Nordschleife.
If it's a production car record what preparation is required? Some none standard track day tyres maybe? That could help to knock 10 seconds off the previous time..... DanDC5 said:
RobM77 said:
yes: It's a blurry distinction to be honest. Most LMP1 or Group C cars could probably be made road legal with a handbrake and a couple of other bits and bobs. That applies to the Group C Porsche that did a 6m11s...
The one not dis-similar to this road car you mean? http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2934834.htm
Dauer of course entered a couple of those into Le Mans as track modified road cars
RobM77 said:
Dauer of course entered a couple of those into Le Mans as track modified road cars
One of my favourite examples of sticking to the letter, not the spirit, of some technical regs.This is a daft 'record' because the definition of production is so arbitrary. The radical SR8 is quicker for a start.
DanDC5 said:
If it's a production car record what preparation is required? Some none standard track day tyres maybe? That could help to knock 10 seconds off the previous time.....
Do cars need to be inspected and be road legal in Germany to be allowed on the 'ring ? It could just be as minor as setting up the stock adjustable suspension to required settings.chilled901 said:
Hope the Lexus boys enjoyed their time in the spotlight for having the fastest time around the Nurburgring because the Viper just rained on their party. The Viper ACR just smashed it again with a time of 7:12.xx The non-street legal ACR-X did it in 7:03.xx
Apart from it's not a record.The Gumpert Apollo and Radical SR8 are both street legal and have ran lower times. Furthermore these Vipers are not even production cars as they are no longer made, were never made in this spec, and have been modified after manufacture.
hairykrishna said:
RobM77 said:
Dauer of course entered a couple of those into Le Mans as track modified road cars
One of my favourite examples of sticking to the letter, not the spirit, of some technical regs.This is a daft 'record' because the definition of production is so arbitrary. The radical SR8 is quicker for a start.
Olivera said:
Apart from it's not a record.
The Gumpert Apollo and Radical SR8 are both street legal and have ran lower times. Furthermore these Vipers are not even production cars as they are no longer made, were never made in this spec, and have been modified after manufacture.
The Viper was picked up from the dealership. Last I checked, dealerships sold street legal cars. The only changes would have been made to factory equipment (the wing, splitter and coilovers which all are designed from the factory to be modified as required.)The Gumpert Apollo and Radical SR8 are both street legal and have ran lower times. Furthermore these Vipers are not even production cars as they are no longer made, were never made in this spec, and have been modified after manufacture.
chilled901 said:
Olivera said:
Apart from it's not a record.
The Gumpert Apollo and Radical SR8 are both street legal and have ran lower times. Furthermore these Vipers are not even production cars as they are no longer made, were never made in this spec, and have been modified after manufacture.
The Viper was picked up from the dealership. Last I checked, dealerships sold street legal cars. The only changes would have been made to factory equipment (the wing, splitter and coilovers which all are designed from the factory to be modified as required.)The Gumpert Apollo and Radical SR8 are both street legal and have ran lower times. Furthermore these Vipers are not even production cars as they are no longer made, were never made in this spec, and have been modified after manufacture.
chilled901 said:
skeeterm5 said:
Isnt the key word in this 'production'. How can this meet this criteria if the car is no longer produced and they had to go somebody to build one for them............
S
Yup. They asked a dealership to build one for them. S
Remind me again, which record it broke?
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