Back from the Dead - Nelson's Navy
Back from the Dead - Nelson's Navy
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Jasandjules

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Thursday 15th September 2011
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Anyone else see this?

Seems awfully inconsistent!

skip_1

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Thursday 15th September 2011
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I saw this, thought it was interesting. Why did you think it was inconsistent?


Jasandjules

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Friday 16th September 2011
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The chap who "fell" from the mast, only broke one side of his arms etc I'd have thought it would be both, especially when they show a "computer image" of the fall and impact and it's both arms down on the ground to protect him. He also didn't break any ribs/pelvis/legs which I would have thought he would if he fell a hundred feet or more from a mast?!? I wondered if he was hit in the side by a swinging mast or similar...It just seemed like his injuries were one side and waist up.

Then they went on about syphillis (sp?) being untreatable in one sentence then 2 mins later detailing the treatment then 30 seconds after that, back to it being untreatable!!

There were a couple of others as well, it was still very interesting mind. And brings the reality of just how awful it must have been for them to life - can you imagine having a limb removed without anaesthetic?

skip_1

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Friday 16th September 2011
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Jasandjules said:
The chap who "fell" from the mast, only broke one side of his arms etc I'd have thought it would be both, especially when they show a "computer image" of the fall and impact and it's both arms down on the ground to protect him. He also didn't break any ribs/pelvis/legs which I would have thought he would if he fell a hundred feet or more from a mast?!? I wondered if he was hit in the side by a swinging mast or similar...It just seemed like his injuries were one side and waist up.

Then they went on about syphillis (sp?) being untreatable in one sentence then 2 mins later detailing the treatment then 30 seconds after that, back to it being untreatable!!

There were a couple of others as well, it was still very interesting mind. And brings the reality of just how awful it must have been for them to life - can you imagine having a limb removed without anaesthetic?
Yes, I didn't really notice at the time. I think the guy could have fallen onto his side and thwe CGI guys got it wrong. The shattered elbow and many fractures would indicate a fall, or may be an explosion? scratchchin

I think with the Syphillis they meant if it wasn't treated straight away it became uncurable, and many sailors wouldn't pay for early treatment.

What surprised me was that things like a shot of lemon juice to beat scurvey only came in during the early/mid 1800's. Also imagine living for many more years unable to speak properly due to a sword therough the chin!

Looking forward to the rest of the series smile

fathomfive

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Friday 16th September 2011
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I thought it wasn't too bad a programme when I watched it a couple of weeks ago. One too many ad breaks though and an over-reliance on dramatic re-enactment took the edge off it for me.

Still watched the Crusaders one though, which was much better.


Jasandjules

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Saturday 17th September 2011
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Yes, the crusaders one was much better. Some of those injuries, my word, they were some warriors!

I am looking forward to the Samurai tomorrow.

fathomfive

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Saturday 17th September 2011
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yes me too.

Didn't fancy being the archer in the Crusader programme. They certainly took a dislike to him by the sound of it!

Jasandjules

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Saturday 17th September 2011
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fathomfive said:
Didn't fancy being the archer in the Crusader programme. They certainly took a dislike to him by the sound of it!
True but I bet his Kill/Death Ratio was good.

And they didn't treat the chap with the cash too well either, shoulder sliced, right arm sliced, arrow in the chest... Then chop his head off!

Mind, I also didn't realise that an arm could actually physically be chopped off in combat (I thought it was a 300 type of bulls**t thing!)...


FourWheelDrift

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Saturday 17th September 2011
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Jasandjules said:
Mind, I also didn't realise that an arm could actually physically be chopped off in combat (I thought it was a 300 type of bulls**t thing!)...
Mad Mike Loades series Weapons that Made Britain covered the Sword part 1, other parts on the right - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEMwcSGauY8

I think it's more to do with the weight of the sword and the force used when swinging it, it; doesn't need a very sharp edge to cut as the pressure on that very narrow blade edge at the point of contact was so high if it got into a joint there was very little to stop it.

fathomfive

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Saturday 17th September 2011
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Jasandjules said:
fathomfive said:
Didn't fancy being the archer in the Crusader programme. They certainly took a dislike to him by the sound of it!
True but I bet his Kill/Death Ratio was good.

And they didn't treat the chap with the cash too well either, shoulder sliced, right arm sliced, arrow in the chest... Then chop his head off!

Mind, I also didn't realise that an arm could actually physically be chopped off in combat (I thought it was a 300 type of bulls**t thing!)...
It was brutal, no doubt.

What about the size of the arrowheads they used against the horses? Now they would smart a bit if you got one stuck in you.