electric tractors, why haven't they taken off?
electric tractors, why haven't they taken off?
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Apache

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39,731 posts

304 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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Cheaper to build (no expensive transmissions) plenty of front end ballast from the batteries, 100% torque from 0 rpm. I'd have thought it would be an ideal application for an EV

George H

14,714 posts

184 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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Because tractors could need to run for 12 hours+ per day I would imagine.

EarlOfHazard

3,630 posts

178 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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electric tractors, why haven't they taken off?

lack of wings? smile

Uhura fighter

7,018 posts

203 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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How much does red derv cost these days? I know our heating oil has gone up, does red derv go up the same as heating oil?

OlberJ

14,101 posts

253 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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EarlOfHazard said:
electric tractors, why haven't they taken off?

lack of wings? smile
Bastirt, you beat me to it.

EarlOfHazard

3,630 posts

178 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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OlberJ said:
EarlOfHazard said:
electric tractors, why haven't they taken off?

lack of wings? smile
Bastirt, you beat me to it.
great minds...

anonymous-user

74 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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When you have a 3 phase power socket fitted to every field in the UK, i suggest you'll make an absolute killing out of this idea.............


(hint, a tractor, pulling a typical large modern plough, is using approx 75 to 90% of the engines power for somthing like 8hrs a day (and somtimes more like 20hrs/day!). To store that quanity of energy in batteries would be impractical. (say, 250kW for 8hrs = 2000kWh, best current battery tech is approx 0.2kWh/hg, so batteries alone would weigh 10 tonnes !!)


(as usual, the electric motor part of your plan is fine, they are great devices, only matched by the compete and utter crock of s**t that is current battery tech !! ;-)

And you will still need a transmission system! (just because a "theoretical" electric motor can make peak torque at zero speed doesn't mean a real one can. And you still need you tractor to be able to go different speeds depending on what it is doing, and for an electrical motor, torque = current (amps), and losses are the square of current, so the higher torque, the higher losses. So you want to make high torque at the wheels by using a high speed low torque motor and a gearbox. hey ho, just like an IC engine then..........)



Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 17th September 11:27

RedWhiteMonkey

8,207 posts

202 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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EarlOfHazard said:
OlberJ said:
EarlOfHazard said:
electric tractors, why haven't they taken off?

lack of wings? smile
Bastirt, you beat me to it.
great minds...
Or fools seldom.....

I'd guess it was to do with market size and current battery life limitations.

J4CKO

45,351 posts

220 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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I suspect the flywheel type thing like shunting trains may work but they work fine wth a diesel engine and it powers all sorts of attachments.

Like the not taking off joke !

paulrussell

2,287 posts

181 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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Because they'd need loads of batteries and then they'd need to be able to charge in a few hours.

Aizle

12,429 posts

195 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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OlberJ said:
EarlOfHazard said:
electric tractors, why haven't they taken off?

lack of wings? smile
Bastirt, you beat me to it.
Or is the conveyor belt not working?

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

224 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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Battery powered tractors

st idea and i am a huge fan of electric cars

However electrically powered heavy plant is very common in open cast mines as they don't move much and they have a giant flexy lead following around like some giant mutant flymow

freecar

4,249 posts

207 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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thinfourth2 said:
Battery powered tractors

st idea and i am a huge fan of electric cars

However electrically powered heavy plant is very common in open cast mines as they don't move much and they have a giant flexy lead following around like some giant mutant flymow
Then how about "bumper car tractors" you know with a wire mesh suspended above the field and a nice whippy aerial on the back!

Apache

Original Poster:

39,731 posts

304 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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thinfourth2 said:
Battery powered tractors

st idea and i am a huge fan of electric cars

However electrically powered heavy plant is very common in open cast mines as they don't move much and they have a giant flexy lead following around like some giant mutant flymow
That's an odd reaction from someone who's pro EV, most of the arguments centre around EVs being fine in certain applications but not others.
It didn't take much of a google to find this

http://www.eeevee.com/tractors/index.html