Biorbs / Fluval Edges Etc
Discussion
From personal experience these tanks are not much fun. You cannot keep many fish in them anyway, and if you overstock with the idea of over filtering and doing regular water changes, it really does become more of a chore than anything else.
The bi orb isn't a great tank due to it's small surface area, as well as the shape of it making the fish look distorted, and on some cases, you rarely see small fish at all.
The fluval type tanks, particularly the fluval edge, I would describe as a show tank, again the surface area of this tank is very small. I think it's actually more like a 1/5 of the size of the tank, making it pretty unhealthy for a fish (gas exchange issue).
The filtration with the chi looks pretty tiny. I was actually shocked it would filter any waste!
Me and my parter are currently helping my neighbour and his son set up an edge abd a chi. We have matured some sponges, and we are also donating out tank water from our 350l.
Despite our best efforts, neither of them have done a fishless cycle, and have gone and bought fish!
So we have basically done this to stop them killing the fish.
I would be happy to keep some cardinals in these tanks, maybe some danios, but even those fish despite being of the smaller breeds, still like a lot of space to school.
The bi orb isn't a great tank due to it's small surface area, as well as the shape of it making the fish look distorted, and on some cases, you rarely see small fish at all.
The fluval type tanks, particularly the fluval edge, I would describe as a show tank, again the surface area of this tank is very small. I think it's actually more like a 1/5 of the size of the tank, making it pretty unhealthy for a fish (gas exchange issue).
The filtration with the chi looks pretty tiny. I was actually shocked it would filter any waste!
Me and my parter are currently helping my neighbour and his son set up an edge abd a chi. We have matured some sponges, and we are also donating out tank water from our 350l.
Despite our best efforts, neither of them have done a fishless cycle, and have gone and bought fish!
So we have basically done this to stop them killing the fish.
I would be happy to keep some cardinals in these tanks, maybe some danios, but even those fish despite being of the smaller breeds, still like a lot of space to school.
Have you thought about something like a nano cube?
I have a 28gallon with the light upgrades... retail at £500, got it for £120 and its quite big.
Only Issue I have is the fact my floor is not level so I cant use the bloody thing as no water can get to the built in weir, which is very annoying as Im waiting to convert it to a Mantis tank.
Once flat is sorted Im then going to sort the tank out properly for a little critter.
I have a 28gallon with the light upgrades... retail at £500, got it for £120 and its quite big.
Only Issue I have is the fact my floor is not level so I cant use the bloody thing as no water can get to the built in weir, which is very annoying as Im waiting to convert it to a Mantis tank.
Once flat is sorted Im then going to sort the tank out properly for a little critter.
A 23 litre tank isn't really suitable for keeping fish of any kind. There are of course some people running nano tanks but these are fairly specialist and tend to be kept by pretty experienced fish keepers. For a community tropical freshwater set up I'd be looking at 60 litres upwards but generally bigger is better as the water chemistry is easier to keep stable.
832ark said:
A 23 litre tank isn't really suitable for keeping fish of any kind. There are of course some people running nano tanks but these are fairly specialist and tend to be kept by pretty experienced fish keepers. For a community tropical freshwater set up I'd be looking at 60 litres upwards but generally bigger is better as the water chemistry is easier to keep stable.
Agreed.Larger tanks are easier to control. The water chemistry and diseases are so much harder to treat when something goes wrong.
Regardless of what everyone says..... ihave a fluval edge, with 4 corydoras and two mollys living in there! And they live quite happliy!
On the advice of a couple of people on here, i have started to do a quarter water change every couple of weeks, and all is well!
Its a nice little feature, the fish seem incredibly happy and lively!
On the advice of a couple of people on here, i have started to do a quarter water change every couple of weeks, and all is well!
Its a nice little feature, the fish seem incredibly happy and lively!
I've got a Biorb with some tetra in (gifted, not my choice).
It's ok, the fish are at least alive still, but you do end up water changing pretty frequently. I intend on moving them to a much, much larger tank though at some point. Preferably one plumbed into the mains doing automatic water changes the way I feel at the moment!
It's ok, the fish are at least alive still, but you do end up water changing pretty frequently. I intend on moving them to a much, much larger tank though at some point. Preferably one plumbed into the mains doing automatic water changes the way I feel at the moment!
sharpfocus said:
I've got a Biorb with some tetra in (gifted, not my choice).
It's ok, the fish are at least alive still, but you do end up water changing pretty frequently. I intend on moving them to a much, much larger tank though at some point. Preferably one plumbed into the mains doing automatic water changes the way I feel at the moment!
I kept a 60l biorb for years, but it became more of a chore than anything else.It's ok, the fish are at least alive still, but you do end up water changing pretty frequently. I intend on moving them to a much, much larger tank though at some point. Preferably one plumbed into the mains doing automatic water changes the way I feel at the moment!
All I had in there were some neon tetras and a few zebra danios.
The first chance we got for fitting in a bigger tank we took!
Personally you need to think about buying as big a tank you can afford and fit in your home.
Turn7 said:
I really dont like this current trend in selling these nano tanks.Coupled with poor information from shop staff, they can be a recipe for disaster.
I feel the same as you.The info the my neighbour and his son were given was beyond stupid!
They told him to simply set up their tanks, add the water and leave the tank for a WHOLE WEEK before adding fish. They were told that the best fish would be zebra danios because they look good in these tanks. WTF??!
I explained that it doesn't matter what they think looks good, only small fish should be in these tanks, and my zebras are far from small. When I explained that the reason for wanting to sell the zebras was because they are hardy fish, and less likely to feel the I'll effects when the ammonia begins to poison them, and that they might possibly survive the 'fish in cycle'. he qanat told about cycling the tank though. He was simply told that these tanks don't need anything doing to them
Sadly his son didn't even listen to this advice, and added 6 young guppies. These were added to a 19l fluvial edge, and guess what, theybwere dead the next day! To make that worse, the ammonia stayed through the roof, even after water changes, as ut were, there was a dead guppy rotting away and stuch in the filter
After many water changes, and some of our sponge filter and water from our tank, he is fine. They both have zebras in there now, it's a case of waiting to see if both sets fish manage to survive.
I have done all I can, but it boils my piss how people will sell these tiny tanks, and supply fish for them, to people who know nothing about fish, or tank maintenance.
I also found out whynthey didn't buy there fish from pets at home, because they insist on info regarding your tank. And I doubt the attitude of 'throw a few hardy fish in' is their way to sell.
sharpfocus said:
I even asked about cycling the tank at my local store and they didn't know what I was talking about, didn't seem to have even heard of it!
I suppose it's because in most stores all they need to do is sell you the tank/fish you want. They just need to make their money regardless of what happens after.anyone thought about one of these for automatically tracking water conditions?
http://www.seneye.com/7reasons
http://www.charterhouse-aquatics.co.uk/catalog/sen...
http://www.seneye.com/7reasons
http://www.charterhouse-aquatics.co.uk/catalog/sen...
Du1point8 said:
anyone thought about one of these for automatically tracking water conditions?
http://www.seneye.com/7reasons
http://www.charterhouse-aquatics.co.uk/catalog/sen...
Yes, I had I thought about it. http://www.seneye.com/7reasons
http://www.charterhouse-aquatics.co.uk/catalog/sen...
It's s
t.That seney. Thing does things that it doesn't need to. It's a gadget that's trying to be something that isn't needed.
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