Help with shimming valves!
Help with shimming valves!
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PoleDriver

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29,587 posts

223 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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My Cerb is long overdue for a check on valve clearances but I can't afford the £800 + I've been quoted. I'm going to do this myself next weekend and I'd be extremely grateful for any advice and loan/hire of any specialist tools needed!
Any advice?

Edited by PoleDriver on Monday 19th September 00:40

ukkid35

6,411 posts

202 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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Good luck, I can't see anyway to do it without the Cam Sprocket Retaining Tool, although I've heard that others have.



The only other thing you need is a feeler gauge and lots of patience.

ukkid35

6,411 posts

202 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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One other thing, try not to drop one of the cam sprocket bolts behind the timing cover, that will ruin your weekend.

JensenA

5,671 posts

259 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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I do most of the work on my car and consider myself fairly competent, but valve clearances is something I leave to the experts. I'm sure you'll find that the £800 you were quoted would be a for a full 12k major service including tappets - and even that's a bit steep. Try Andy at APM.

amazon

3,704 posts

240 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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JensenA is right - I happen to know thst Sebring quote £180 for a tappet check - then additional for the adjustments that might be required.

I did this once on No1 Cerbera - with lots of expert guidance present - it was great! smile But I couldn't just do it on my own and remember everything that was involved, enormously satisfying job, mine were mostly within the tolerance, expect for one burnt valve! eek


ukkid35

6,411 posts

202 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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Phil Egginton said:
We do not have a retaining tool in stock but could supply one for £50.

All plus delivery..

Regards

Phil Egginton
MCD (www.mcdpartnership.com)

PoleDriver

Original Poster:

29,587 posts

223 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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Cheers guys! I'm going to get a couple of more quotes for the job, otherwise I'll see if I can get the cam-sprocket locking tool!

GT6k

965 posts

191 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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There's guidance on this thread http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=993... and a picture of the sprocket retaining tool I made (a socket welded to a piece of dexion). I also made a plate with a 1.5mm step to get the initial timing position but in practice I didnt re time the cam as i found i could not improve on the original accuracy.

It's not particulalry difficult but you do need to follow the instructions carefully and its rather tedious. I didnt find it necessary to rotate the engine once the sprockets were off so that makes things simpler. It took me three attempts per side to get all the tappets within 1thou.



PoleDriver

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29,587 posts

223 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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Doing the sensible thing, got it booked in with APM next week! smile

Gazzab

21,638 posts

311 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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Dont use APM ;-) He will actually do it and do it right. Book it into somewhere that will quote a really cheap price and will tell you they have done it when they havent.

steviejasp

1,646 posts

194 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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APM, The first time I've ever had a car serviced where it felt better than before it went in!

PoleDriver

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29,587 posts

223 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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Just spoken to Andy... Evidently all the inlets on one bank were closed right up!! All sorted now so should find a fair difference when I pick her up on Saturday!

woohoo Roll on TiTT7

spongy

2,236 posts

190 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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What was the approx cost bud,if you dont mind me asking

ukkid35

6,411 posts

202 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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PoleDriver said:
Just spoken to Andy... Evidently all the inlets on one bank were closed right up!! All sorted now so should find a fair difference when I pick her up on Saturday!

woohoo Roll on TiTT7
The same as mine except it was both banks.

Gazzab

21,638 posts

311 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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spongy said:
What was the approx cost bud,if you dont mind me asking
Call andy? His hourly rate is great value and he does things quicker than book.

PoleDriver

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29,587 posts

223 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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spongy said:
What was the approx cost bud,if you dont mind me asking
Dunno yet, not picking it up till saturday! frown

ukkid35

6,411 posts

202 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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PoleDriver said:
Dunno yet, not picking it up till saturday! frown
Really?

I like to know before I sign off on any expenditure (not that I pay anyone else to work on any of my cars) but you know what I mean.

PoleDriver

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29,587 posts

223 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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ukkid35 said:
PoleDriver said:
Dunno yet, not picking it up till saturday! frown
Really?

I like to know before I sign off on any expenditure (not that I pay anyone else to work on any of my cars) but you know what I mean.
I rarely do, but Andy is trustworthy!

Unlike the person I bought the car off!! Supposedly fitted with different cams, but their standard. "Tappets have been adjusted" 3 years before I bought it!!!! "I have a workshop manual and loads of other bits you can have!" 18 months later, still waiting! frown

spongy

2,236 posts

190 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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ukkid35 said:
Really?

I like to know before I sign off on any expenditure (not that I pay anyone else to work on any of my cars) but you know what I mean.
Bud you will find tvr garages dont give a price due to the nature of the car.When i had my top bushes done with the mot the mechanic said he could do the bushes in a couple of hours,think i was charged for about 7 or 8 cant remember.Yeah im like you i like to know how much things cost before hand.My trouble was last time the car had tax when it went into the garage and by the time they got it sorted it was out off tax,ie i could not tax it due to no mot so i decided to let them do the work.

Gazzab

21,638 posts

311 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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Its the nature of that job that the hrs depend on what they find - so the best I would expect would be a price range.