At What Point Does A Car Become A Classic?
Discussion
Apparently these days it's when it's over ten years old and some spotty 'yoof' refers to it as retro.
The inherent ability of said vehicle is immaterial as can be seen by how 'yoofs' fawn over rusty MkII XR2's when in reality they were absolutely crap to drive. I know, I had one from new!
The inherent ability of said vehicle is immaterial as can be seen by how 'yoofs' fawn over rusty MkII XR2's when in reality they were absolutely crap to drive. I know, I had one from new!
I wouldn't open up this can of worms again!
It's the age v the 'class' part of classic argument i.e. how can a ford sierra 1.6 or a lada riva or a 1980s repmobile cavalier be considered a classic? And then it becomes very subjective depending on your brand opinion / driving style / what you learned to drive in / what your dad owned / your first car / instant classic status due to badge snobbery and imagery.
Just, please don't. It's been done to death several times.
It's the age v the 'class' part of classic argument i.e. how can a ford sierra 1.6 or a lada riva or a 1980s repmobile cavalier be considered a classic? And then it becomes very subjective depending on your brand opinion / driving style / what you learned to drive in / what your dad owned / your first car / instant classic status due to badge snobbery and imagery.
Just, please don't. It's been done to death several times.
There is a point though where a car becomes a classic to all petrolheads. Examples of modern cars I think will be seen as classics in years to come will be cars like the Skyline GTR and the Evo 5/6. Not sure if the Impreza will be though, maybe certain models like the 22b.
More modern cars produced in the last few years, will be the R26.R, Mk1 Focus RS, Clio V6, maybe the Integra/Civic Type R.
More modern cars produced in the last few years, will be the R26.R, Mk1 Focus RS, Clio V6, maybe the Integra/Civic Type R.
Edited by DanDC5 on Monday 19th September 15:29
alfa pint said:
I wouldn't open up this can of worms again!
It's the age v the 'class' part of classic argument i.e. how can a ford sierra 1.6 or a lada riva or a 1980s repmobile cavalier be considered a classic? And then it becomes very subjective depending on your brand opinion / driving style / what you learned to drive in / what your dad owned / your first car / instant classic status due to badge snobbery and imagery.
Just, please don't. It's been done to death several times.
Very interesting on the subject of marques. It's the age v the 'class' part of classic argument i.e. how can a ford sierra 1.6 or a lada riva or a 1980s repmobile cavalier be considered a classic? And then it becomes very subjective depending on your brand opinion / driving style / what you learned to drive in / what your dad owned / your first car / instant classic status due to badge snobbery and imagery.
Just, please don't. It's been done to death several times.
DanDC5 said:
There is a point though where a car becomes a classic to all petrolheads. Examples of modern cars I think will be seen as classics in years to come will be cars like the Skyline GTR and the Evo 5/6. Not sure if the Impreza will be though, maybe certain models like the 22b.
Interesting, again considering the "classic" Subaru Impreza is being banded around Classic Car Weekly recently. V8Triumph said:
alfa pint said:
I wouldn't open up this can of worms again!
It's the age v the 'class' part of classic argument i.e. how can a ford sierra 1.6 or a lada riva or a 1980s repmobile cavalier be considered a classic? And then it becomes very subjective depending on your brand opinion / driving style / what you learned to drive in / what your dad owned / your first car / instant classic status due to badge snobbery and imagery.
Just, please don't. It's been done to death several times.
Very interesting on the subject of marques. It's the age v the 'class' part of classic argument i.e. how can a ford sierra 1.6 or a lada riva or a 1980s repmobile cavalier be considered a classic? And then it becomes very subjective depending on your brand opinion / driving style / what you learned to drive in / what your dad owned / your first car / instant classic status due to badge snobbery and imagery.
Just, please don't. It's been done to death several times.
(I had a few sierra 1.8s, a cortina, a 1980s repmobile cavalier and they weren't THAT bad. In fact, the cavalier was utterly reliable, comfortable and reasonably economical and I therefore have some good memories of it) As I said though, it's all subjective. Someone else will have fond memories of cars that I hate e.g. the metro, the ford escort poverty plus, nissan bluebirds etc and declare them to be classics.
V8Triumph said:
Most "classic cars" that people will mention if you say name a classic car, for instance, will be British made. Also a lot of classic car events / shows / meetings are heavily biased towards old British cars I have noticed. Or is this perhaps a regional thing?
I'm sure if you went to a French classic car show, it would be full of old French pugs / simca / citroen / renault etc. Similarily, a German or Italian classic car show would be heavily biased towards their country's own. Only the UK could consider the Allegro or the Princess a classic car and create a club to cater for them. ;-)doogz said:
V8Triumph said:
Most "classic cars" that people will mention if you say name a classic car, for instance, will be British made. Also a lot of classic car events / shows / meetings are heavily biased towards old British cars I have noticed. Or is this perhaps a regional thing?
Regional, in that we live in Britain, yes.alfa pint said:
V8Triumph said:
Most "classic cars" that people will mention if you say name a classic car, for instance, will be British made. Also a lot of classic car events / shows / meetings are heavily biased towards old British cars I have noticed. Or is this perhaps a regional thing?
I'm sure if you went to a French classic car show, it would be full of old French pugs / simca / citroen / renault etc. Similarily, a German or Italian classic car show would be heavily biased towards their country's own. Only the UK could consider the Allegro or the Princess a classic car and create a club to cater for them. ;-)
All comes down to personal preference does it not?
I'm going to say, that if a person restores an old car back to showroom condition then that car might be considered a classic car.
But, a knackered version of the same car might not.
Personally, I might even stretch my personal definition to an older car being customised in a older fashion.
Such as a Mk1 Golf GTI with classic 80s mods.
I don't think classic car status comes down to the age and model of the car these days.
I think it comes down to a person putting time and effort (and money) into a car that makes that car a classic.
But, a knackered version of the same car might not.
Personally, I might even stretch my personal definition to an older car being customised in a older fashion.
Such as a Mk1 Golf GTI with classic 80s mods.
I don't think classic car status comes down to the age and model of the car these days.
I think it comes down to a person putting time and effort (and money) into a car that makes that car a classic.
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