Manifold Wrap?
Manifold Wrap?
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ukkid35

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6,411 posts

202 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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Since my manifolds are off, is it worth wrapping them before putting them back? Arguments for and against please.

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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Hi Paul,

Read many a thread on wraps (on PH and other makes forums) as its one thing I'm looking at to reduce bay temps. If you're keeping the mild steel originals, then moisture trapped by the wrap may become an issue in rotting the manifold quicker. There's some anecdotal evidence that wrapping causes more cracking than not, due to lack of heat dispersal, potential for creating hot spots with un-even wrapping and additional expansion of the manifold.

The extra heat transfer along the exhaust may cause issue further down the pipes and in many cases unless the car is decatted, the cabin temps are increased.

Most opinion I can find from internet threads, is that wrapping stainless steel manifolds ie the ACT ones, is ok, but wrapping the mild steel OEM's isnt. As with everything on Cerbs, its good and bad!!

Edited by djstevec on Wednesday 21st September 12:24

brogenville

941 posts

230 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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Except that on a cerbera, the OEM manifold is stainless.

Granted however that "stainless" is a fairly broad term.

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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brogenville said:
Granted however that "stainless" is a fairly broad term.
Agreed!

BCA

8,651 posts

286 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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Pros; There is a small chance it may make a very slight difference.

Cons; Probably wont make a difference on a Cerb, costs money/time, all TVR manifolds on Cerbs crack and you wont be able to access/ weld them without a faff.


Steve - if you want to reduce temps in the engine bay, you're best off looking at the transmission tunnel first. Decatting will help remove two great big 900 degree(?) cans underneath there, I would suggest this would help it all be noticeably cooler?

aubrey9160

396 posts

211 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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Ive wrapped the exhausts on my T350 and it has made a difference in the cabin . It seems to make the coolant and oil temps a little more stable, ie when sat in traffic. As for cracking manifolds I aint got a clue.

BCA

8,651 posts

286 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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aubrey9160 said:
Ive wrapped the exhausts on my T350 and it has made a difference in the cabin . It seems to make the coolant and oil temps a little more stable, ie when sat in traffic. As for cracking manifolds I aint got a clue.
Less of an issue on a six from what I have seen. smile

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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BCA said:
Steve - Decatting will help remove two great big 900 degree(?) cans underneath there, I would suggest this would help it all be noticeably cooler?
Oh I know!! ;-)


markh1

2,846 posts

238 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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You could look at getting them ceramic coated. More expensive but more effective.

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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markh1 said:
You could look at getting them ceramic coated. More expensive but more effective.
Have many Cerb owners tried this?? Was quoted £730 + VAT + shipping to coat the standard ACT replacements in their standard white coating. All in cost appx £1,600 including manifold purchase. Can old manifolds be coated after a good (very good) clean up?


ukkid35

Original Poster:

6,411 posts

202 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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I think a fifty foot roll of 40mm wrap at £16 is nearer my budget...

N4 FTW

627 posts

214 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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Only other thing to bear in mind with exhaust wrap is that if oil or fuel can drip onto the wrapping. On the Cerb, I'm specifically talking about the breather on the drivers side of the car. This has caused fires in the past (not on Cerb's but on other cars with wrapped manifolds).

You can get a spray that you spray onto the wrap once it has been wrapped onto the manifold to protect against this.

Also, when you fit the wrap, soak it in water first and fit it wet. This reduces the horrible fibres that your skin will attract and also makes the wrap "shrink" around the manifolds when it dries. Use steel cable ties to securely hold the wrap in place and then spray with the protective spray after that.

Hope that helps!

scotty_d

6,795 posts

223 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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brogenville said:
Except that on a cerbera, the OEM manifold is stainless.

Granted however that "stainless" is a fairly broad term.
Very Broad my magnetic pick tool sticks to it like st to a blanket hehe

So a fairly high iron content there then.

brogenville

941 posts

230 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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scotty_d said:
Very Broad my magnetic pick tool sticks to it like st to a blanket hehe

So a fairly high iron content there then.
Not really to do with iron content. nerd Austentitic stainless steel, which is non magnetic, is the most prevelabt type, but there are many grades of ferritic stainless steel. Most likely reason that your cerb exhaust is magnetic is a low nickel content in the alloy.

ukkid35

Original Poster:

6,411 posts

202 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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I hate heat wrap.

Many thanks to Zorba_The_Greek for helping last night and putting up with my non-stop swearing.

Edited by ukkid35 on Tuesday 27th September 09:10

spongy

2,236 posts

190 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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ukkid35 said:
I hate heat wrap.

Many thanks to Zorba_The_Greek for helping last night and putting up with my non-stop swearing.

Edited by ukkid35 on Tuesday 27th September 09:10
laugh it has a mind of its own that stuff

high52kojak

505 posts

226 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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I had my standard manifolds ceramic coated by Camcoat, not cheap, around £400 but they are well done and worth it in my opinion.

They look great also.