Is undertaking bad?
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pops and bangs

Original Poster:

674 posts

177 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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I've noticed overtaking can sometimes provoke a reaction, and I don't mean potentially dangerous overtakes as a reaction would be expected.

But I occasionally undertake, yes I know it isn't exactly a "smart idea" but sometimes I find myself on the "fast" lane behind someone at 60mph with no one infront of them, and yet they don't seem to move over, anyway I find undertaking seems to make most people angry.

I never attempt dangerous undertakes and only do them as a last resort.

Is undertaking bad? Are all undertakers s? Do you undertake?


poing

8,743 posts

220 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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Depends if the person is dead or not.

andy-xr

13,204 posts

224 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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I do it all the time, if I can leave a lane between me and 'the other person' on a motorway I'll do that

pops and bangs

Original Poster:

674 posts

177 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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poing said:
Depends if the person is dead or not.
laugh

anonymous-user

74 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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I do it very rarely, and only when someone is sitting in the outside lane apparently oblivious to me wanting to get past. I have noticed it can sometimes provoke an EXTREME reaction - I had some knob in a sad old 3 series go past me again, swerve in front and slam on his brakes and then buzz around annoying me for miles afterwards until I lost him in traffic.

A friendly "I'm here, wake up please and move over (you dozy )" flash of the lights seems to also provoke a negative response too, as does putting on your right indicator to say "yes, I do want to go past" like they do on the continent. Typical British spineless passive aggressive nonsense I suppose.


kwak

210 posts

172 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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Depends on how you do it I think. If you are 100% sure that people jsut drive in whatever lane they want, and aren't going to change, I say go ahead. Otherwise, don't risk it.

pops and bangs

Original Poster:

674 posts

177 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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I don't know what it is but going past someone whether overtaking or undertaking seems to really hurt some peoples self esteem.

Me personally if I see a car behind me getting bigger in my rear view mirror I'll move out the way.


pops and bangs

Original Poster:

674 posts

177 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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kwak said:
Depends on how you do it I think. If you are 100% sure that people jsut drive in whatever lane they want, and aren't going to change, I say go ahead. Otherwise, don't risk it.
What I notice though is that most times as I switch lanes to undertake they seem to want to change lanes..

craigb84

1,494 posts

172 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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There are countries that allow it. With the roads here becoming increasingly full of morons and middle lane warriors I see it as no big deal.

faster_stueys

67 posts

201 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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Agreed with the pervious posters, it's bad to do but once you've flashed people to no reaction it's the only way to keep moving. The police need a blitz on lane discipline before we keep adding lanes to motorways, UK is getting beyond poor.

pops and bangs

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674 posts

177 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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Nick3point2

3,920 posts

200 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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Not as bad as being in the wrong lane.

Deluded

4,968 posts

211 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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I don't intentionally undertake but if I'm cruising on a quiet motorway in the left lane and come across someone sat in the middle lane going slower, I'll just carry on my way.

I don't see any issue with this. What pisses me off is people who jump into any lane just to get one car ahead on a busy motorway, often pushing in leaving very little space.

Tallbut Buxomly

12,254 posts

236 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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pops and bangs said:
What I notice though is that most times as I switch lanes to undertake they seem to want to change lanes..
This is a very common and worrying trend. Says to me they were simply not paying any attention to the road around or behind them. ZOmbie.

Personally i now pass either side without slowing. I simply cannot be bothered to waste any more time on the inconsiderate clueless daydreaming pricks that are the majority of other motorists that i have to "share" the road with.

pops and bangs

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Thursday 22nd September 2011
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Hell27

1,564 posts

211 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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It's only really bad if the other person is unaware and goes for a lane change. Then it's bad.

pops and bangs

Original Poster:

674 posts

177 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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Hell27 said:
It's only really bad if the other person is unaware and goes for a lane change. Then it's bad.
I'd say that seems to happen on the majority of my undertakes, I'm starting to think that some of them do it on purpose, but then again I'm paranoid....

deadslow

8,720 posts

243 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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craigb84 said:
With the roads here becoming increasingly full of morons.......... I see it as no big deal.
Ah, the irony. hehe

pthelazyjourno

1,859 posts

189 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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I'll happily undertake if there's a get out plan...

If they're sat aimlessly in the right lane, and there's nothing in the left, there's nothing illegal in keeping up with the flow of traffic.

I only tend to do it if there's a hard shoulder or somewhere I could swerve onto if the worst came to the worst - you never know if they'll just drift back into the inside lane again without looking, especially if they're not expecting you to go by. As such, I don't tend to hang around when doing it either - the less time I'm alongside them the less chance of them swapping lanes when I'm in a vulnerable place.

Drive Blind

5,552 posts

197 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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I do it almost on a daily basis now.

There are loads of drivers who on a 2 lane dc or mway just sit in lane 2 permanently.

I'm usually in no rush to get to work - I aim for 60mph - and yet i find myself sailing past loads of drivers in lane 1 without changing my lane or speed.

The most common scenario is that folk come charging down a slip road and immediately dive into lane 2. That driver then has to brake and after forcing their way into lane 2 has caused everybody else in lane 2 to back up and to slow down.

Take a section of road with a junction every 2 miles or so and you end up with lane 2 carrying 75% of the traffic.