Uniroyal Rainsport 2 - Soft Side Wall?
Uniroyal Rainsport 2 - Soft Side Wall?
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Tonberry

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2,222 posts

214 months

Saturday 24th September 2011
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Replaced the aging Avons on the 306 with a set of these.

The problem is that they feel very vauge under cornering, especially on initial turn in.

I feel as if I'm having to constantly make steering adjustments mid corner as the tyres squirm about, almost as if the tyres are rolling onto their side walls.

The tyres are currently running 5 PSI above the manufacturers (Pegeuot) suggested settings.

Any ideas?

Deerfoot

5,148 posts

206 months

Saturday 24th September 2011
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I've got them on the front of my Polo GT (no lightweight either with the 130bhp 1.9 PD unit over the front wheels) and they feel fine to me.

I had P-Zero Neros on prior to the Uniroyals.

steveo3002

11,015 posts

196 months

Saturday 24th September 2011
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found the same on my golf...feels like theyre almost coming off the rim on a brisk trip around a roundabout

zb

3,725 posts

186 months

Saturday 24th September 2011
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Are they run in properly yet? There was a guy over on briskoda who didn't like them at first (on a Fabia vRS) but after they were run in he found them much better.

zb

3,725 posts

186 months

Saturday 24th September 2011
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Deerfoot said:
I've got them on the front of my Polo GT (no lightweight either with the 130bhp 1.9 PD unit over the front wheels) and they feel fine to me.

I had P-Zero Neros on prior to the Uniroyals.
You may be onto something, I think these tyres suit a big old nose heavy lump, not sure on lighter cars or 4WD they'd be as effective (tram lining?)

poing

8,743 posts

222 months

Saturday 24th September 2011
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zb said:
Are they run in properly yet? There was a guy over on briskoda who didn't like them at first (on a Fabia vRS) but after they were run in he found them much better.
This.

I've had a few new sets of tyres that felt terrible at first but after a couple of hundred miles they have settled in. Someone told me it was to do with a releasing agent that needs to wear off, no idea if that's true but it certainly seems like some tyres have a settling in period.

MJK 24

5,670 posts

258 months

Saturday 24th September 2011
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poing said:
This.

I've had a few new sets of tyres that felt terrible at first but after a couple of hundred miles they have settled in. Someone told me it was to do with a releasing agent that needs to wear off, no idea if that's true but it certainly seems like some tyres have a settling in period.
Tyres do have a release agent that can take anything from 50 to 500 miles to wear away.

Some people use Toyo T1's on Lotus Elise and say they need a good 1,000 miles to bed in properly.

anonymous-user

76 months

Saturday 24th September 2011
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zb said:
I think these tyres suit a big old nose heavy lump,
I've got them on the front of an E Class estate, they're superb. Great grip in all weathers, excellent wear rate (16k miles and probably only half worn), no more flex\roll than the previous Michelin PS2s that came on the wheels.

I've got them at 31 PSI which is between the two recommended figures for the car, haven't felt the need to over inflate them.

zb

3,725 posts

186 months

Saturday 24th September 2011
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yellowbentines said:
I've got them on the front of an E Class estate, they're superb. Great grip in all weathers, excellent wear rate (16k miles and probably only half worn), no more flex\roll than the previous Michelin PS2s that came on the wheels.

I've got them at 31 PSI which is between the two recommended figures for the car, haven't felt the need to over inflate them.
Forgive my ignorance (about the E class estate, if it's an estate I would think it's not so nose heavy?), I'm not sure if you or agreeing or saying your experience is different?

I should add: I have these tyres on my car (Mk1 Fabia vRS) and I find them excellent, and this is from someone who was utterly gutted that Goodyear Eagle GSD3s were no longer made in my size, the Rainsports 2s have no discernible difference in the dry, but in the wet (I'm in Scotland, this is important!) they are better, no question about it.

Mr Happy

5,811 posts

242 months

Saturday 24th September 2011
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Avons mostly have supremely stiff sidewalls, so anything will feel like it's got a bit more flex after them. There's probably nothing wrong with the Uniroyals, you're probably just so used to how the car handles on the Avons, that they feel sloppier than they actually are. If you'd gone to them from Toyos or Goodyears, you'd probably not notice much difference, but due to the brand you came from - you do.

vrsmxtb

2,003 posts

178 months

Sunday 25th September 2011
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Had these on a Fabia VRS - was very impressed especially for the price. Not sure about the soft sidewall complaint, maybe because the Fabia steering is a bit vague anyway irked

lowdrag

13,139 posts

235 months

Sunday 25th September 2011
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Even though you've upped the pressure it still sounds as if the tyres needs more. Cars are strange in the way they react to different tyres and it is usually a case of not knowing until you've spent the money. Completely different but just as a example, on my D-type the Dunlop R5 tyres needed a mimimum of 30psi up front, yet the Blockleys 24psi. At 30psi they felt like solid rubber and understeered like mad.

24lemons

2,928 posts

207 months

Sunday 25th September 2011
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I had some fitted to my golf gt in the spring and I find them excellent. Loads of grip especially in the wet.

They tend to make the sound of a soft tyre around roundabouts but I've never felt them struggling for grip.

anonymous-user

76 months

Sunday 25th September 2011
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zb said:
Forgive my ignorance (about the E class estate, if it's an estate I would think it's not so nose heavy?), I'm not sure if you or agreeing or saying your experience is different?
I'm agreeing! My car has a big diesel lump up front, although it's an estate I feel it is a bit nose heavy, and the fact its the only RWD car I've had where the front tyres wear quicker than the rears confirms - either that or I'm cornering far too quickly/heavy and wearing them out!

I'm. In Scotland too, lots of rain which is specifically why I chose the Rainsport 2 - the fitter commented that Uniroyals are not the most popular tyre, but those that try them tend to stick with the brand and keep coming back for more.

Chrisw666

22,655 posts

221 months

Sunday 25th September 2011
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My Volvo has them on the rear and occasionally the back end feels like I am inducing power oversteer, which if I am is a huge talent I should market given the FWDness of my car.

HBFS

803 posts

213 months

Sunday 25th September 2011
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I've had them for the whole of my Fabia vRS ownership, I'm not sure how related it is to the car but...
There's hardly any feel in the steering whatsoever.

Frances The Mute

1,816 posts

263 months

Sunday 25th September 2011
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Rainsport 2's tend to have around 8.5mm - 9mm tread depth which is very deep for a car tyre. As such, they give a lot of block movement until the have scrubbed in so it's not surprising you've experienced this.

They'll settle down after a few thousand miles.

Tonberry

Original Poster:

2,222 posts

214 months

Sunday 25th September 2011
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Some interesting replies.

I'll give them a chance before I make my final judgement as they only have 500 miles on them.

Will be good to see how they cope in the snow.

Pablo16v

2,634 posts

219 months

Sunday 25th September 2011
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Tonberry said:
Some interesting replies.

I'll give them a chance before I make my final judgement as they only have 500 miles on them.

Will be good to see how they cope in the snow.
I used Rainsport 2's on my Saab 9-5 3.0 diesel for close to 30,000 miles and they've always felt perfectly fine. They work quite well in snow too.

The Hypno-Toad

13,091 posts

227 months

Monday 26th September 2011
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I've just put them on the MX-5 & I've got to say they are excellent, lovely grip and crisp turn-in. I'd highly recommend them.