IS BMW routing fake engine noise through stereo in new M5?
IS BMW routing fake engine noise through stereo in new M5?
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RDMcG

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20,908 posts

238 months

Saturday 24th September 2011
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http://jalopnik.com/5843332/new-bmw-m5-fakes-its-e...

This sounds very disturbing..........

iNick

213 posts

250 months

E30M3SE

8,493 posts

227 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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Very sad.cry

cjj799

363 posts

210 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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Apparently the Lexus LFA supercar has something like this, although not with the stereo. Engine and exhaust noise is "ducted" into the cabin so the driver gets to feel more involved.


anonymous-user

85 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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My Z4 had induction tubing for sound into the cabin.

Stig

11,823 posts

315 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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cjj799 said:
Apparently the Lexus LFA supercar has something like this, although not with the stereo. Engine and exhaust noise is "ducted" into the cabin so the driver gets to feel more involved.
The difference being the LFA noise is actually what's coming from the engine!

hornetrider

63,161 posts

236 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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Stig said:
cjj799 said:
Apparently the Lexus LFA supercar has something like this, although not with the stereo. Engine and exhaust noise is "ducted" into the cabin so the driver gets to feel more involved.
The difference being the LFA noise is actually what's coming from the engine!
Indeed, same with the Z4 and MX5. To recreate fakey engine noises and pump them through the stereo is a bit odd to say the least.

carter711

1,849 posts

229 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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I suppose this way you have the choice of listening to the engine or not, not a bad idea and one that will be copied and made into an aftermarket accessory for boy racers across the land.

The bottom line is you can't beat real engine sound though!

Johnboy Mac

2,666 posts

209 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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St John Smythe said:
My Z4 had induction tubing for sound into the cabin.
Sorry, but I could not stop smiling after reading that. No offence intended.


Edited by Johnboy Mac on Tuesday 27th September 13:27

hornetrider

63,161 posts

236 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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carter711 said:
I suppose this way you have the choice of listening to the engine or not, not a bad idea and one that will be copied and made into an aftermarket accessory for boy racers across the land.
Wash your mouth out! What next - BMW OEM dump valve speakers under the bonnet?

Chris71

21,549 posts

273 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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I can sort of see the purist angle, but I don't think this is such a bad thing, really.

It means people like us can hoon round listening to a nice raucous V8, while the neighbours just hear another rather muffled modern executive saloon start in the morning. It also means when you don't want a raucous V8 any more and want a nice silent cruise you can turn it off. Of course, when you do it'll be even quieter than before because you can cut acoustic transmission of the sound down to a minimum now you're not relying on that to entertain keen drivers.

It's working in conjunction with a real sound source, so the sound isn't completely synthesised even if elements of it are.

Personally I love cars with a split personality - sensible family wagon one moment, hooning device the next - and surely that's the whole reasoning behind something like an M5? If you wanted a dedicated track car or B-road blaster you'd get something smaller and lighter, but this way you can combine that with a big sensible saloon.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

202 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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The future is synthetic.

Chris71

21,549 posts

273 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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Mermaid said:
The future is synthetic.
You could argue the present is to a certain extent.

Modern mass-produced engines sound the way they do because dozens of NVH engineers have used computer modelling and all sorts of other rather 'dry' techniques to meet pre-set targets defined by the management. It's not a cheery artisan with oily fingers tinkering in a garage somewhere. smile

The Jolly Todger

2,744 posts

211 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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My guess is that the article is wrong and that the system BMW will use on the M5 is the same as that used on the Z4 and others (i.e. not using the stereo at all).

Edit: I've just googled and there are lots of articles all saying the same thing. I still thing I'm right though.

TheEnd

15,370 posts

219 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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The previous BMW system was along the lines of a resonance tube from the intake which goes to a chamber with a diaphragm that passes the noise into the cabin, but still has it kept sealed.

The idea behind it is good, but it might make BMW a bit of a laughing stock if the electronic version is true, and solely used on BMWs.

It'd be nice to get a stainless steel exhaust or a dump valve for £9.99 at HMV though.

RDMcG

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20,908 posts

238 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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Well, you might be able to get an M5 sound in your 1 series for a pittance. Mini too.

NNNick

213 posts

250 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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I always thought they'd do this with electric cars.

And it actually makes sense. The engine sound gives you a lot of information, driving without sound takes away one of the senses.

Try playing a car simulator with the sound off. ODD!

TheEnd

15,370 posts

219 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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They did talk about it, incase someone doesn't look when crossing the road as they think a milkfloat is coming.

DVandrews

1,382 posts

314 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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There are already a number of devices that produce electronic engine noises which align with your exisitng engine note, I have seen models that produce sounds based on Ferraris, Lambos, Porsche and Scooby, these sample the current engine noise (as in noise cancelling devices) and produce the equivalent in Porsche/etc speak.

I first saw this idea on 'Tomorrow's World' at least 25 years ago.

Dave

Soovy

35,829 posts

302 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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Terrible.

Whats wrong with decent open pipes and the windows down?