Future Classic - with a twist
Discussion
I love cars, always have. Whilst I appreciate some modern machinery, most of the stuff I really love was designed and built before I was born.
So, my wife's expecting our first child. Obviously i'm hoping it'll be a boy and I can pass on my love of cars at an early age. That got me thinking, should I buy something now, prepare it for hibernation and store it until my boy is old enough to take an interest?*
It'll need to be frugal (petrol is going to be wallet clenchingly expensive in 18 years I reckon), easy enough to work on, fun to drive, tuneable and 'old school cool'.
As I like stuff that was around for a few years before I was born, I thought something from the last 5-10 years would suit. I get by ok, but I'm not a wealthy man by any means and we have aspirations of expensive schools, so Astons and 911s etc are right out (as well as being too thirsty for an 18 yr old to run in 2030). The budget is probably around 4k (but less is better!).
I'm thinking MX-5s and BMW Z3s fit the bill. Any other suggestions?
So, my wife's expecting our first child. Obviously i'm hoping it'll be a boy and I can pass on my love of cars at an early age. That got me thinking, should I buy something now, prepare it for hibernation and store it until my boy is old enough to take an interest?*
It'll need to be frugal (petrol is going to be wallet clenchingly expensive in 18 years I reckon), easy enough to work on, fun to drive, tuneable and 'old school cool'.
As I like stuff that was around for a few years before I was born, I thought something from the last 5-10 years would suit. I get by ok, but I'm not a wealthy man by any means and we have aspirations of expensive schools, so Astons and 911s etc are right out (as well as being too thirsty for an 18 yr old to run in 2030). The budget is probably around 4k (but less is better!).
I'm thinking MX-5s and BMW Z3s fit the bill. Any other suggestions?
- if he/she isn't interested I'll get it back on the road myself.
elise, most definately a future classic but maybe heading out of your budget? they are starting to get expensive unless you get a beater.
on the same lines but a bit of a budget stretch is the vx220.
I think a 205gti is one of those hiding in plain sight classics, very affordable but others may not share my opinion there. Another to consider are the sporty 306s, maybe a bit too young but i have heard great things about them and definately affordable. that's the hatchback route anyway.
in bigger senses, an unmolested M3 (older generations) would probably be worth a few bob. Especially if it hasn't been fiddled by some nutter.
ford puma also comes to mind, seems to be popular here but doesn't hold up to mx5/z3 etc and I don't like the looks.
HTH, really got me thinking
on the same lines but a bit of a budget stretch is the vx220.
I think a 205gti is one of those hiding in plain sight classics, very affordable but others may not share my opinion there. Another to consider are the sporty 306s, maybe a bit too young but i have heard great things about them and definately affordable. that's the hatchback route anyway.
in bigger senses, an unmolested M3 (older generations) would probably be worth a few bob. Especially if it hasn't been fiddled by some nutter.
ford puma also comes to mind, seems to be popular here but doesn't hold up to mx5/z3 etc and I don't like the looks.
HTH, really got me thinking
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C235108#
A little over budget, but this is pretty cool. You don't see many early GTis like this.
vixen1700 said:
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C235108#
A little over budget, but this is pretty cool. You don't see many early GTis like this.
forget it. Buy something to enjoy now. In 18 years time we wont evben be allowed to read acbout cars like that, nevermind drive them
Do they meet the latest emissions?
Do they meet the latest pedestrain safety measures?
Is the speed limiter equipment fitted and working correctly? You know this is part of the MOT now...
The GPS has told us this vehicle went for a non-essential journey- one which seemed to have no purpose at all. We've debited £60 from your account already. Failure to provide an adequate exaplanatiuon will result in a further fine and possibly imprisionment...
Sorry, but do you think its going to get better??
Do they meet the latest emissions?
Do they meet the latest pedestrain safety measures?
Is the speed limiter equipment fitted and working correctly? You know this is part of the MOT now...
The GPS has told us this vehicle went for a non-essential journey- one which seemed to have no purpose at all. We've debited £60 from your account already. Failure to provide an adequate exaplanatiuon will result in a further fine and possibly imprisionment...
Sorry, but do you think its going to get better??
williamp said:
forget it. Buy something to enjoy now. In 18 years time we wont evben be allowed to read acbout cars like that, nevermind drive them
Do they meet the latest emissions?
Do they meet the latest pedestrain safety measures?
Is the speed limiter equipment fitted and working correctly? You know this is part of the MOT now...
The GPS has told us this vehicle went for a non-essential journey- one which seemed to have no purpose at all. We've debited £60 from your account already. Failure to provide an adequate exaplanatiuon will result in a further fine and possibly imprisionment...
Sorry, but do you think its going to get better??
Do they meet the latest emissions?
Do they meet the latest pedestrain safety measures?
Is the speed limiter equipment fitted and working correctly? You know this is part of the MOT now...
The GPS has told us this vehicle went for a non-essential journey- one which seemed to have no purpose at all. We've debited £60 from your account already. Failure to provide an adequate exaplanatiuon will result in a further fine and possibly imprisionment...
Sorry, but do you think its going to get better??
Edited by Wizardskills on Monday 26th September 16:36
williamp said:
forget it. Buy something to enjoy now. In 18 years time we wont evben be allowed to read acbout cars like that, nevermind drive them
Do they meet the latest emissions?
Do they meet the latest pedestrain safety measures?
Is the speed limiter equipment fitted and working correctly? You know this is part of the MOT now...
The GPS has told us this vehicle went for a non-essential journey- one which seemed to have no purpose at all. We've debited £60 from your account already. Failure to provide an adequate exaplanatiuon will result in a further fine and possibly imprisionment...
Sorry, but do you think its going to get better??
Just made a similat sort of comment on the new Caterham thread.Do they meet the latest emissions?
Do they meet the latest pedestrain safety measures?
Is the speed limiter equipment fitted and working correctly? You know this is part of the MOT now...
The GPS has told us this vehicle went for a non-essential journey- one which seemed to have no purpose at all. We've debited £60 from your account already. Failure to provide an adequate exaplanatiuon will result in a further fine and possibly imprisionment...
Sorry, but do you think its going to get better??
We are all on borrowed time here unless there is a massive ground swell against the way the "Government" whether it be UK based or Europe is forcing us to go.
pacoryan said:
Hmm yes an 18 year old insuring an Elise/Z3/M3 or even an MX5....
Panda 100hp if you're lucky, maybe a Honda Beat/Suzuki Cappucino if you can find one that hasn't dissolved.
Maybe a Smart? I've no idea what they cost, but easy to store!!
smart roadster sound like a good bet. what about a clio williams? they are going to go through the roof in the next 5 years i recon and will only continue to climb in prices.Panda 100hp if you're lucky, maybe a Honda Beat/Suzuki Cappucino if you can find one that hasn't dissolved.
Maybe a Smart? I've no idea what they cost, but easy to store!!
failing that buy something like a kit car and build it up over the next 10 years slowly with him as and when you can afford. put some money aside and use it as a fund. then if electric comes to a viable proposition, simply convert. Stuart mills of MEV has made several electric kits over the last 10 years of so.
LOL you sound like me, 19 years ago. I thought (when we were expecting our first baby) "hooray, someone to pass me spanners!".
So we had a little girl, and bought a Scimitar as our child-friendly car, baby seat fixed onto back seats with load straps. Our other car at that time was a GT6 - child seat strapped nicely into the front. That's all probably illegal now.
Now, I thought my children would love my classic cars, but they don't. I think the eldest likes-ish the Quattro because "it's cool", but they have no interest in the TR6 at all, in fact they really don't like it.
That said they do like classics - I think it must be in the blood - but not my classics. They've chosen their own to lust after. Eldest wants a Capri, and the youngest is into American stuff. So my advice is, share the passion, but come the time I'd recommend letting them make their own choices, because they might not be the same as yours.
So we had a little girl, and bought a Scimitar as our child-friendly car, baby seat fixed onto back seats with load straps. Our other car at that time was a GT6 - child seat strapped nicely into the front. That's all probably illegal now.
Now, I thought my children would love my classic cars, but they don't. I think the eldest likes-ish the Quattro because "it's cool", but they have no interest in the TR6 at all, in fact they really don't like it.
That said they do like classics - I think it must be in the blood - but not my classics. They've chosen their own to lust after. Eldest wants a Capri, and the youngest is into American stuff. So my advice is, share the passion, but come the time I'd recommend letting them make their own choices, because they might not be the same as yours.
Westfield - http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3037573.htm
Alfa GTV spyder - http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3022822.htm
Original mini cooper - http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3245932.htm
lotus Elan - http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3067594.htm
Alfa GTV spyder - http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3022822.htm
Original mini cooper - http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3245932.htm
lotus Elan - http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3067594.htm
lotus Elan - http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3067594.htm
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That's not an Elan its a front engine front wheel drive 1.6 which was even badged as a Kia for a time. It doesn't deserve classic status or a Lotus badge and it definately doesn't deserve the name Elan!
Of course this is my opinion and actually when I drove one I thought it was quite good, still not a proper lotus though.
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That's not an Elan its a front engine front wheel drive 1.6 which was even badged as a Kia for a time. It doesn't deserve classic status or a Lotus badge and it definately doesn't deserve the name Elan!
Of course this is my opinion and actually when I drove one I thought it was quite good, still not a proper lotus though.
Yertis said:
LOL you sound like me, 19 years ago. I thought (when we were expecting our first baby) "hooray, someone to pass me spanners!".
So we had a little girl, and bought a Scimitar as our child-friendly car, baby seat fixed onto back seats with load straps. Our other car at that time was a GT6 - child seat strapped nicely into the front. That's all probably illegal now.
Now, I thought my children would love my classic cars, but they don't. I think the eldest likes-ish the Quattro because "it's cool", but they have no interest in the TR6 at all, in fact they really don't like it.
That said they do like classics - I think it must be in the blood - but not my classics. They've chosen their own to lust after. Eldest wants a Capri, and the youngest is into American stuff. So my advice is, share the passion, but come the time I'd recommend letting them make their own choices, because they might not be the same as yours.
Agreed. The way my Dad got me into classics primarily was to take me to shows, rallies and races. They're exciting, they're fun, and they can be interesting even for people who aren't normally sufficiently interested in cars to pick up a book or magazine on the subject. I know people who are massively into retro fashion and couldn't give a toss about twin Strombergs who'll happily spend an hour looking round a village green classic car show. Truth is, events like that normalise classic cars rather than making them seem perverse, especially on a freezing November night, covered in grease, with skinned knuckles, trying to free a sump plug on something that hasn't moved in a decade.So we had a little girl, and bought a Scimitar as our child-friendly car, baby seat fixed onto back seats with load straps. Our other car at that time was a GT6 - child seat strapped nicely into the front. That's all probably illegal now.
Now, I thought my children would love my classic cars, but they don't. I think the eldest likes-ish the Quattro because "it's cool", but they have no interest in the TR6 at all, in fact they really don't like it.
That said they do like classics - I think it must be in the blood - but not my classics. They've chosen their own to lust after. Eldest wants a Capri, and the youngest is into American stuff. So my advice is, share the passion, but come the time I'd recommend letting them make their own choices, because they might not be the same as yours.
And as you've highlighted, they might like cars, just not necessarily YOUR cars, so introduce them to some variety!
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