D2x trade in value
Discussion
Afternoon all,
Ive just been offered 380gbp trade in on my D2x. It's boxed 16,200 actuations. good condition , no bumps bangs etc, couple of very tiny marks. I'm waiting to see what they come back to me with after speaking to them about it, they're going to 'see what they can do'. I'm sure thats just code for 'ah, youve rumbled that we're trying to rip you off' anyway, i digress....
This is against a 7D btws, but makes me think about selling it privately, any ideas what it may be worth, ive seen them with many more actuations for around 650-675 but thats all academic of the thing doesn't seel isn't it, and lets face it, people aren't tripping over themselves to pick up D2x's are they. Actually its a great piece of kit and ill be sad ot let it go, but i went to the otherside a while back and it's stupid to have it sitting there doing nothing. (i did postulate selling it sometime ago on here but never got my arse in gear to do it)
Over to the PH massive.....
neil
Ive just been offered 380gbp trade in on my D2x. It's boxed 16,200 actuations. good condition , no bumps bangs etc, couple of very tiny marks. I'm waiting to see what they come back to me with after speaking to them about it, they're going to 'see what they can do'. I'm sure thats just code for 'ah, youve rumbled that we're trying to rip you off' anyway, i digress....
This is against a 7D btws, but makes me think about selling it privately, any ideas what it may be worth, ive seen them with many more actuations for around 650-675 but thats all academic of the thing doesn't seel isn't it, and lets face it, people aren't tripping over themselves to pick up D2x's are they. Actually its a great piece of kit and ill be sad ot let it go, but i went to the otherside a while back and it's stupid to have it sitting there doing nothing. (i did postulate selling it sometime ago on here but never got my arse in gear to do it)
Over to the PH massive.....
neil
without doubt! i could handle losing out a bit for the convienance, but not by so much, especially as i was already offered 450 on it against a used 1DII , which i decided against purley because the 7D has features i really like. Shame, the 1D bodies are greast and it was a good deal.
cheers though...
neil
cheers though...
neil
Recent UK based deals on ebay that have resulted in a sale seem to be indicating around the £500 mark or a little under as being typical for a 'deal completed' price paid.
That's based on a very quick eBay Advanced Search ticking the 'completed' box.
That sort of suggests the offer price may not have a great deal of flexibility unless they set out to do a deal beacause they want to shift the other item and take whatever margin is left to them.
That's based on a very quick eBay Advanced Search ticking the 'completed' box.
That sort of suggests the offer price may not have a great deal of flexibility unless they set out to do a deal beacause they want to shift the other item and take whatever margin is left to them.
GetCarter said:
Blimey, I had no idea mine was worth so much! It really is old tech. Fab build quality mind, but If I was spending £650 on a DSLR it wouldn't be a D2x
Neither would I, which makes me think that they don't actually sell at that price, however, like i said I was offered 450 against a mint 1DII that was up for 799, so who knows! The D2x is a great camera, but its sweet spot is a bit limited isn't it. Then again, depends on what you want it for I guess. for someone who wanted a tank in the studio it would be ideal. Horses for courses I guess.neil
Yeah, thats about right isn't it! It's the one thing I hate most about digital, not just the fact that the kit is immediately worth next to nothing when its superceeded, but you're lucky if you can even sell it! It's not like when a new model is announced the old ones cease to work is it. Madness.
The camera companies and the camera wings of companies have become no more than purveyors of glorified consumer electronic guff, to be cast aside and 'obselete' the moment the next model is announced' Digital is simoulatiously the best and worst thing to happen to photography IMHO.
Don't get me wrong, I don't have rose tinted glasses on sitting here wishing for some halcyon bygone age that never really existed anyway to return, just that things have, and are changing and not for the better in a lot of cases.
The camera companies and the camera wings of companies have become no more than purveyors of glorified consumer electronic guff, to be cast aside and 'obselete' the moment the next model is announced' Digital is simoulatiously the best and worst thing to happen to photography IMHO.
Don't get me wrong, I don't have rose tinted glasses on sitting here wishing for some halcyon bygone age that never really existed anyway to return, just that things have, and are changing and not for the better in a lot of cases.
neilr said:
Yeah, thats about right isn't it! It's the one thing I hate most about digital, not just the fact that the kit is immediately worth next to nothing when its superceeded, but you're lucky if you can even sell it! It's not like when a new model is announced the old ones cease to work is it. Madness.
The camera companies and the camera wings of companies have become no more than purveyors of glorified consumer electronic guff, to be cast aside and 'obselete' the moment the next model is announced' Digital is simoulatiously the best and worst thing to happen to photography IMHO.
Don't get me wrong, I don't have rose tinted glasses on sitting here wishing for some halcyon bygone age that never really existed anyway to return, just that things have, and are changing and not for the better in a lot of cases.
They're not obsolete though are they? It is just that the newer product can do things that the older product can't. People nowadays expect amazing low light performance, huge megapixels, multi mode AF etc which only the latest bodies can provide. The older bodies still do exactly what they did when they were made, I've only just retired a 1Ds body from 2002, it still produced beautiful quality images, I just wanted the better screen and quicker processing of the 1Ds Mk2 but the old 1Ds will still do exactly what it did in 2002, the latest lenses will fit it, the latest CF cards are compatible, the same tripods will hold it etc etc. In some ways the modular aspect of photography means the products go out of use slower than lots of other consumer electronics, when did you last see a Minidisc for example, or a laser video disc? A Canon EF lens that you used on an old Eos 1 film camera isn't suddenly incompatible, you could go and buy a 1D Mk IV and the same lens would happen, my tripod head is a Linhof from the 60s and 70s, stunning build quality and works just like it should.The camera companies and the camera wings of companies have become no more than purveyors of glorified consumer electronic guff, to be cast aside and 'obselete' the moment the next model is announced' Digital is simoulatiously the best and worst thing to happen to photography IMHO.
Don't get me wrong, I don't have rose tinted glasses on sitting here wishing for some halcyon bygone age that never really existed anyway to return, just that things have, and are changing and not for the better in a lot of cases.
markmullen said:
They're not obsolete though are they? It is just that the newer product can do things that the older product can't. People nowadays expect amazing low light performance, huge megapixels, multi mode AF etc which only the latest bodies can provide. The older bodies still do exactly what they did when they were made, I've only just retired a 1Ds body from 2002, it still produced beautiful quality images, I just wanted the better screen and quicker processing of the 1Ds Mk2 but the old 1Ds will still do exactly what it did in 2002, the latest lenses will fit it, the latest CF cards are compatible, the same tripods will hold it etc etc. In some ways the modular aspect of photography means the products go out of use slower than lots of other consumer electronics, when did you last see a Minidisc for example, or a laser video disc? A Canon EF lens that you used on an old Eos 1 film camera isn't suddenly incompatible, you could go and buy a 1D Mk IV and the same lens would happen, my tripod head is a Linhof from the 60s and 70s, stunning build quality and works just like it should.
Quite right Mark. Although at the medium to low end of the market for camera bodies the lesser performance available at the time (memory card write speed, ISO noise levels once up to 400 and above, jpg processing settings, battery capacity and efficiency and so on) may be a bit more of a compromise the Pro level bodies used within their design expectations still deliver.I was quite surprised to discover that one of the leading motor sport photographers - motor sport being a subject for which you would imagine only the 'latest and greatest' will do - actually operates with some relatively elderly equipment. He still gets great results and from what I can tell doesn't seem to miss out on shots because the kit not bang up-to-date.
If one mainly works with the more contemplative aspects of photography - landscapes and seascapes being good examples - and have no particular expectation that the images will be used commercially to create adverts the size of a soccer pitch, the older pro level bodies offer excellent value for money.
Simpo Two said:
Weeeelll - think positive (no pun intended) - as there's no film to pay for, the money you saved on film will pay for the depreciation...
Quite right, and it's just not the cost of the (positive) film:A journey to buy the film ...... a journey to the lab to drop the film in for (E6) processing ..... a journey back to the lab to look at the clip tests ..... a journey to the lab again to collect the processed film (or all that could have been done using couriers) ....... buying the transparency masks/mounts .....
throwing away from the fridge, all the out of date film (I had to keep SO many different film stocks for whatever job might turn up).
If you use it, a (disposable
) digital body is SO low cost compared to filmbut with a very low shutter count I could see how depreciation would irk.
GetCarter said:
Blimey, I had no idea mine was worth so much! It really is old tech. Fab build quality mind, but If I was spending £650 on a DSLR it wouldn't be a D2x
Have you seen how much Greys want for there older secondhand bodies? 
And it's 2003/4 technology!!!I have to totally agree - if you're on a budget you'd be better off on a D7000 (not so nice to handle mind) or a s/h D300/D90 than shell out on a D2x/xs
Simpo Two said:
Meet up with Beano and you have a nice pair of bookends
Cheers - you could even get a pair of D200's for that sort of money Simpo Two said:
Weeeelll - think positive (no pun intended) - as there's no film to pay for, the money you saved on film will pay for the depreciation...
Absolutely, a quick look at my fingers says 16,000 actuations means about the equivalent of 450 films - wouldn't that be about the order of £5,000? Makes a D3X seem cheap!Oh - and why not keep the second body and convert to infra red - or any number of other weird and wonderful projects!?!
markmullen said:
They're not obsolete though are they? It is just that the newer product can do things that the older product can't. People nowadays expect amazing low light performance, huge megapixels, multi mode AF etc which only the latest bodies can provide. The older bodies still do exactly what they did when they were made, I've only just retired a 1Ds body from 2002, it still produced beautiful quality images, I just wanted the better screen and quicker processing of the 1Ds Mk2 but the old 1Ds will still do exactly what it did in 2002, the latest lenses will fit it, the latest CF cards are compatible, the same tripods will hold it etc etc. In some ways the modular aspect of photography means the products go out of use slower than lots of other consumer electronics, when did you last see a Minidisc for example, or a laser video disc? A Canon EF lens that you used on an old Eos 1 film camera isn't suddenly incompatible, you could go and buy a 1D Mk IV and the same lens would happen, my tripod head is a Linhof from the 60s and 70s, stunning build quality and works just like it should.
I agree with you (I put obselete in quotes) as it seems that people treat them as obselete. I'm selling my Nikon gear as I dont use it, not because it doesn't produce superb images anymore! Indeed. And built like a tank (one of those King Tiger jobbies). I still use my D2x alongside my D3 (saves changing lenses and also 'extends' my 70-300), but I know full well that if I push the D2x over 640 the noise will be as loud as a loud thing. I'm so used to using the triangle of Aperture /Speed /ISO now I feel miffed when the ISO doesn't want to play ball. (Take note Carlos Tevez).
As mentioned on another thread, I very rarely use a tripod on the D3. Upping the ISO is the way I now gain extra DOF, not keeping the shutter open longer.
This probably seems lazy. It probably is. It's also a new flexibility I would hate to live without. (And my photos are generally sharper).
PS: I did an entire registry office wedding with no flash on the D3. Not something I would even consider on a D2x.
Anyway I digress. The reason I was so surprised that my D2x might be worth that much was that it developed a shutter fault a year or so ago, and the nice chap at Grays of Westminster told me the cost of repair would be over £500 so it was not worth doing.
(I gave the camera a good talking to and the fault disappeared btw).
As mentioned on another thread, I very rarely use a tripod on the D3. Upping the ISO is the way I now gain extra DOF, not keeping the shutter open longer.
This probably seems lazy. It probably is. It's also a new flexibility I would hate to live without. (And my photos are generally sharper).
PS: I did an entire registry office wedding with no flash on the D3. Not something I would even consider on a D2x.
Anyway I digress. The reason I was so surprised that my D2x might be worth that much was that it developed a shutter fault a year or so ago, and the nice chap at Grays of Westminster told me the cost of repair would be over £500 so it was not worth doing.
(I gave the camera a good talking to and the fault disappeared btw).
markmullen said:
Can I send my bodies up to you when they need new shutters? You can talk to them and I'll save a load of money!
I reckon you're onto a good little business there.
I do printers too. I had an Epson that refused to work so I threw it out of an upstairs window and left it out overnight. The next day it worked perfectly. Sometimes you just have to show these things who's boss.I reckon you're onto a good little business there.
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