What Watch Winder?
What Watch Winder?
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Turbofocus

Original Poster:

435 posts

188 months

Wednesday 28th September 2011
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Hi i am looking for some advice please.

I have a Tag Heuer Aquaracer,model is CAF2010.BA0815 if that helps.

I need to get a watch winder for it but i am worried about buying the wrong one after hearing about ones that can cause stress to the movements by over winding it all the time,or not winding it properly etc.

So if anyone can point me in the right direction with links and what ones to buy it would be appreciated.



RichTT

3,266 posts

202 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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Your setting is CW (Clockwise) and 800 TPD (Turns Per Day).

You need to look for a winder that has adjustable TPD setting.

Here's the link to the Orbita database that has details of your watch + movement.

http://www.orbita.net/NEW/Database-T.htm

andy tims

5,606 posts

277 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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I wouldn't bother, but then my views on winders have been expressed several times before.

Unless you're taking about a perpetual calendar watch, it's really not that much bother to set it each time before you wear it. I change my watch virtually every day (sometimes twice) and it takes about a minute to set a stopped automatic watch, even with a day / date function.



Turbofocus

Original Poster:

435 posts

188 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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RichTT said:
Your setting is CW (Clockwise) and 800 TPD (Turns Per Day).

You need to look for a winder that has adjustable TPD setting.

Here's the link to the Orbita database that has details of your watch + movement.

http://www.orbita.net/NEW/Database-T.htm
Thank you.

Turbofocus

Original Poster:

435 posts

188 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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andy tims said:
I wouldn't bother, but then my views on winders have been expressed several times before.

Unless you're taking about a perpetual calendar watch, it's really not that much bother to set it each time before you wear it. I change my watch virtually every day (sometimes twice) and it takes about a minute to set a stopped automatic watch, even with a day / date function.
I appreciate your views.

I did a bit more research after posting this question and it has left me confused.
Some seem to say get a winder as it is better for the watch as it does not damage the crown and mechanism plus keeps it lubricated.
Others say do onto get one as the oils will thin and cause wear plus the risk of over winding stress.

So I am happy to hear peoples views on what is best.
I am more than happy to keep setting the time and day/date,as like you say it takes about 3 minutes.
I was only considering getting one to protect the watch and prevent damage etc but now i am confused as to what is best for the watch.

Paul_M3

2,535 posts

216 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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andy tims said:
I wouldn't bother, but then my views on winders have been expressed several times before.

Unless you're taking about a perpetual calendar watch, it's really not that much bother to set it each time before you wear it. I change my watch virtually every day (sometimes twice) and it takes about a minute to set a stopped automatic watch, even with a day / date function.
I find this strange. Wouldn't you much prefer to just be able to pick a watch up and put it straight on your wrist? Having to spend 2 or 3 minutes setting a watch whenever I put it on would really start to annoy me.

Not to mention the potential for wear/damage unscrewing and screwing the crown so regularly.

When a watch costs thousands of pounds, £30 for a winder to keep it ready to use (and potentially saving damage) seems completely insignificant.

I suppose I just like having all my watches ready to grab and quickly put on as I leave the house.

Trustmeimadoctor

14,373 posts

186 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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i just noticed my watch im wearing says its 8:45 on wednesday hmm i think it had stopped smile surprised i haven't looked at it all day really

S6 Devil

3,556 posts

264 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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Not sure if I'm being a bit thick...probably but looking at the above Orbita site, I need two different winders. One that does clockwise for 650 turns a day and one that does both directions for 800 turns a day. Most watch winders I have been looking at only have the one turn speed. What should I be looking at in terms of makes and models of winder?

andy tims

5,606 posts

277 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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Paul_M3 said:
Not to mention the potential for wear/damage unscrewing and screwing the crown so regularly.
With a large(ish) collection it's 2 or 3 times a month for the popular watches & way less the the not so popular, which vs running 24/7 is no contest in wear & tear terms.

Paul_M3 said:
When a watch costs thousands of pounds, £30 for a winder to keep it ready to use (and potentially saving damage) seems completely insignificant.
To keep all my auto's wound I'd need a very big winder.

That would mean leaving the watches out on display somewhere in the house & therefore easy to find should a thief break in.

No, I'll do without ta.

tertius

6,914 posts

261 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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andy tims said:
Paul_M3 said:
Not to mention the potential for wear/damage unscrewing and screwing the crown so regularly.
With a large(ish) collection it's 2 or 3 times a month for the popular watches & way less the the not so popular, which vs running 24/7 is no contest in wear & tear terms.

Paul_M3 said:
When a watch costs thousands of pounds, £30 for a winder to keep it ready to use (and potentially saving damage) seems completely insignificant.
To keep all my auto's wound I'd need a very big winder.

That would mean leaving the watches out on display somewhere in the house & therefore easy to find should a thief break in.

No, I'll do without ta.
I agree with Andy.

Cannot see the point at all for a normal auto.

Paul_M3

2,535 posts

216 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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andy tims said:
Paul_M3 said:
Not to mention the potential for wear/damage unscrewing and screwing the crown so regularly.
With a large(ish) collection it's 2 or 3 times a month for the popular watches & way less the the not so popular, which vs running 24/7 is no contest in wear & tear terms.

Paul_M3 said:
When a watch costs thousands of pounds, £30 for a winder to keep it ready to use (and potentially saving damage) seems completely insignificant.
To keep all my auto's wound I'd need a very big winder.

That would mean leaving the watches out on display somewhere in the house & therefore easy to find should a thief break in.

No, I'll do without ta.
That's fair enough then. In your personal circumstances I can see exactly why you wouldn't want to bother. If I was you, I wouldn't bother either.

However....I have one automatic which I wear during the week, and three others I wear at weekends. Without a watch winder I'd be setting one (or all) of the other three EVERY weekend, and then my work watch again on the Monday morning.

Can you see that in my particular circumstances a watch winder is quite useful?

It seems like whenever anyone asks a question about which watch winder to get, some people always just jump in and say "Don't bother, they're pointless".
They may be pointless for YOU, but you shouldn't assume that is always the case for others.

tertius

6,914 posts

261 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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Paul_M3 said:
andy tims said:
Paul_M3 said:
Not to mention the potential for wear/damage unscrewing and screwing the crown so regularly.
With a large(ish) collection it's 2 or 3 times a month for the popular watches & way less the the not so popular, which vs running 24/7 is no contest in wear & tear terms.

Paul_M3 said:
When a watch costs thousands of pounds, £30 for a winder to keep it ready to use (and potentially saving damage) seems completely insignificant.
To keep all my auto's wound I'd need a very big winder.

That would mean leaving the watches out on display somewhere in the house & therefore easy to find should a thief break in.

No, I'll do without ta.
That's fair enough then. In your personal circumstances I can see exactly why you wouldn't want to bother. If I was you, I wouldn't bother either.

However....I have one automatic which I wear during the week, and three others I wear at weekends. Without a watch winder I'd be setting one (or all) of the other three EVERY weekend, and then my work watch again on the Monday morning.

Can you see that in my particular circumstances a watch winder is quite useful?

It seems like whenever anyone asks a question about which watch winder to get, some people always just jump in and say "Don't bother, they're pointless".
They may be pointless for YOU, but you shouldn't assume that is always the case for others.
So based on the post above, where different movements appear to require different winder settings, you would potentially need three different winders, or a three+ winder where each is independently settable ... or four if you want to keep your week day watch wound at the weekend ... each watch could then only go on its dedicated winder ... or you could just set the watch you are about to wear ...

Though I have to confess I rather doubt that watches *really* need different winder settings, after all they all get treated the same on your wrist.

Paul_M3

2,535 posts

216 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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tertius said:
Though I have to confess I rather doubt that watches *really* need different winder settings, after all they all get treated the same on your wrist.
I just have them all turning the same directions and the same amount.

I have 2 double winders, each costing about £30.

I'd rather have that, than be forever screwing/unscrewing crowns.

viper paul

2,485 posts

305 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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I have 2 of these plus the statutory wooden box and I must say this is one of the nices things I have ever bought and simple enough to be left in a locked cupboard in the spare bedroom :-

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Time-Tutelary-Automatic-Ve...

S6 Devil

3,556 posts

264 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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Paul_M3 said:
I just have them all turning the same directions and the same amount.

I have 2 double winders, each costing about £30.

I'd rather have that, than be forever screwing/unscrewing crowns.
r do you have?

What winder do you use?

Fatrat

682 posts

222 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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I asked exactly this question in July and in response to a post I purchased this:

http://www.hifi-tower.co.uk/Classic-Watch-Winder-D...

Delighted with it

Paul_M3

2,535 posts

216 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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S6 Devil said:
Paul_M3 said:
I just have them all turning the same directions and the same amount.

I have 2 double winders, each costing about £30.

I'd rather have that, than be forever screwing/unscrewing crowns.
r do you have?

What winder do you use?
I've just got a couple of these: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Time-Tutelary-Automatic-Ve...

You can select direction of rotation (or alternating), and there are 4 settings for rotation time/rest time.

Not fancy like many watch winders obviously, but perfectly functional.

andy tims

5,606 posts

277 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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Paul_M3 said:
Can you see that in my particular circumstances a watch winder is quite useful?

It seems like whenever anyone asks a question about which watch winder to get, some people always just jump in and say "Don't bother, they're pointless".
They may be pointless for YOU, but you shouldn't assume that is always the case for others.
I can & you make an extremely valid point.

Adam B

29,757 posts

285 months

Saturday 1st October 2011
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I own 3 watches, and unlikely to buy more bar a lottery win.

Having a dual winder and 1 on my wrist will be very useful to me, I don't want to have set time date and day every time I swap over. If a burglar breaks in they will get my watches regardless of whether they are in a winder or not