engine upgrade opinions please
engine upgrade opinions please
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Andy chimaera

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1,463 posts

190 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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i was concidering a 4.6 coversion a while ago when i had some spare cash, so while i was there, was thinking about some stage 4 heads, ACT twin or triple plenum upgrade too and had comments on here saying that i could reach over 300hp from that, which was backed up by richard from dulfords, now that lot would come at a cost and money is tight at the mo, but would still love more power and better drivability as it still shunts a bit after my last upgrades, now the question is, as a compramise i was thinking about just a stage 4 head and a twin plenum upgrade and get mark adams to map it for me, now would i get any reasonable gains from this or would it not be worth the money?? richard called the other day saying that mark was at dulford and would like to have done a taylored map on my car, but i wasnt available to go down there that day, he reconed it would drive much better and maybe produce 10 more horse power just from that, so i recon with better heads and a twin plenum he could get lots more power?? at the mo its a 400 with stealth cam, smooth bore induction, hydrolic lifters, uprated air flow meter, carbon trumpets and was rolling roaded to produce 253hp

thanks guys

V8FROG

444 posts

192 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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nice power u got there!!!i am suppose to change my cam pretty soon.they told me i should go for the MC1 cause no sure the stealth cam will fit.mine is a 400 year 2001.i have the smooth elbow,carbon trumpets,custtom exhaust and K&N filter.i do believe a well tune 400 can be plenty enough if u know what u are doing!!!!tks for ur comments....
Andy chimaera said:
i was concidering a 4.6 coversion a while ago when i had some spare cash, so while i was there, was thinking about some stage 4 heads, ACT twin or triple plenum upgrade too and had comments on here saying that i could reach over 300hp from that, which was backed up by richard from dulfords, now that lot would come at a cost and money is tight at the mo, but would still love more power and better drivability as it still shunts a bit after my last upgrades, now the question is, as a compramise i was thinking about just a stage 4 head and a twin plenum upgrade and get mark adams to map it for me, now would i get any reasonable gains from this or would it not be worth the money?? richard called the other day saying that mark was at dulford and would like to have done a taylored map on my car, but i wasnt available to go down there that day, he reconed it would drive much better and maybe produce 10 more horse power just from that, so i recon with better heads and a twin plenum he could get lots more power?? at the mo its a 400 with stealth cam, smooth bore induction, hydrolic lifters, uprated air flow meter, carbon trumpets and was rolling roaded to produce 253hp

thanks guys

Andy chimaera

Original Poster:

1,463 posts

190 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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i was confused when someone asked me if i had pocketed pistons cos stealth cams wont fit otherwise, but im sure dulford wouldnt have lied, but apparently there are 2 stealth cams, i guess 1 for pocketed pistons and one for without, so that answered that one biggrin

Alexdaredevilz

5,697 posts

210 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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If it was me, id either go one of 3 ways

SBC conversion

Supercharge what you got

Buy a old 4.6 off ebay and mod and rebuild, and drop in when its finished

Andy chimaera

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1,463 posts

190 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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yes supercharging is an option, i will say im not capable of doing the work myself, so a garage would have to do it, i thought of getting a 4.6 engine, but im still into spending more than what i have at the moment, the upgrade that richard mentioned had balanced pistons, balanced crank, for i guess a supersmooth drive and id still want the heads done as ive been told the biggest restriction on the rover v8 is the heads, so as a compramise, i was wondering if id get sufficient gains by upgrading just the heads and maybe an ACT plenum for good measure??

SILICONEKID340HP

14,997 posts

262 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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Andy chimaera said:
i was confused when someone asked me if i had pocketed pistons cos stealth cams wont fit otherwise, but im sure dulford wouldnt have lied, but apparently there are 2 stealth cams, i guess 1 for pocketed pistons and one for without, so that answered that one biggrin
Correct me if im wrong but one is from V8 Developments the other RPI,Both completley different ..

Pity V8 frog you live the other side of the world because we would all like to meet you and the other V8 Developments could look at your engine to see if the Stealth will fit ..Its touch and go, some engines will.


Andy chimaera

Original Poster:

1,463 posts

190 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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[quote=SILICONEKID340HP]
Correct me if im wrong but one is from V8 Developments the other RPI,Both completley different ..

Pity V8 frog you live the other side of the world because we would all like to meet you and the other V8 Developments could look at your engine to see if the Stealth will fit ..Its touch and go, some engines will.

its just what i was told, i have no idea personally, when i first mentioned my upgrades on here a while ago, someone asked me if i had pocketed pistons as stealth cams can only work with them, so i called dulford and asked how they knew i had those pistons for the cam to fit, he then told me they do 2 types and moments after i logged into here and someone else said exactly the same as richard, that they do 2 types of cam

peaktorque

1,807 posts

242 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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TVR Power turbo conversion whistle

scotty_d

6,795 posts

225 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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peaktorque said:
TVR Power turbo conversion whistle
This Hold fire and see how it pans out but this is where i would spend my pennys.

And it will be cheaper than SC the car

peaktorque

1,807 posts

242 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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scotty_d said:
This Hold fire and see how it pans out but this is where i would spend my pennys.

And it will be cheaper than SC the car
This is the route I'll be taking eventually and it'll stay with the right engine wink

sgrimshaw

7,587 posts

281 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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Andy chimaera said:
yes supercharging is an option ..........
Andy, next time you speak to Richard at Dulford, ask him about my SC400 and see what he says biggrin

Andy chimaera

Original Poster:

1,463 posts

190 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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peaktorque said:
TVR Power turbo conversion whistle
so how much would this cost? any more details guys??

Pepsi_x

217 posts

296 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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Probably a silly question, but why would the turbo conversion be cheaper than the super charger route?

Andy chimaera

Original Poster:

1,463 posts

190 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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the trouble is with turbo, you dont get anything from them until wound up, i love low down, instant power, foot down and go, at the mo, most of my power comes in higher up any way

peaktorque

1,807 posts

242 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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Details here

Still in the development stages I understand, but should be worth the wait wink

Andy chimaera

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1,463 posts

190 months

Saturday 1st October 2011
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peaktorque said:
Details here

Still in the development stages I understand, but should be worth the wait wink
looks impressive, i wonder how much it would cost? and i didnt see any referance to any sort of power gains, i still have a problem with turbos and no low end power, i owned 3 impreza sti's over the years so anyone with experience with those will know what i mean, i love loads of low end grunt, any way, so what you guys are saying that my money could be better spent on something else rather than heads? the thing is, heads, remap and maybe an ACT plenum is only a couple of grand fitted, isnt a supercharger kit over 3 by the time someone will install it for me? i am on a bit of a budget at the mo, but would love a bit more power

sgrimshaw

7,587 posts

281 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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Andy chimaera said:
isnt a supercharger kit over 3 by the time someone will install it for me? i am on a bit of a budget at the mo, but would love a bit more power
The SC kit is over £4k before you start.

Cheap it isn't.

Would I do it again, hell Yes!!!


neal1980

2,585 posts

270 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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Andy chimaera said:
, i still have a problem with turbos and no low end power, i owned 3 impreza sti's over the years so anyone with experience with those will know what i mean, i love loads of low end grunt
You need me to take you out in mine that will sway you over to the turbo option...
Lag confused whats that with a 4.0-5.0 engine biglaugh

Edited by neal1980 on Sunday 2nd October 19:41

SILICONEKID340HP

14,997 posts

262 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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neal1980 said:
You need me to take you out in mine that will sway you over to the turbo option...
Lag confused whats that with a 4.0-5.0 engine biglaugh

Edited by neal1980 on Sunday 2nd October 19:41
Its about time you had a dump valve ! im still hung overlaugh

Andy chimaera

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1,463 posts

190 months

Monday 3rd October 2011
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neal1980 said:
You need me to take you out in mine that will sway you over to the turbo option...
Lag confused whats that with a 4.0-5.0 engine biglaugh

Edited by neal1980 on Sunday 2nd October 19:41
ah yes but yours is twin turbo, so you got a small one winding up at lower revs, or is that whats being suggested? i bet that cost more than a couple of grand though? RE supercharger costing over 4 grand, im sure dulford sdaid theirs is about 3200, im guessing plus fitting? any way i was only looking to spend under 3 at the moment so i guess options are limited, thats why i was thinking about decent heads and a remap for now and wondered what gains i may get from that, im still tempted to hold off and save and get something decent done