S4 convertible vs M3 convertible?
S4 convertible vs M3 convertible?
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Luke.

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11,630 posts

270 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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Simple really. Which one would you go for with £12k to spend?

Is the M3 far more expensive to run?

Will the S4 feel slow in comparison?

Is the M3 image a bit too chavvy these days?

Edited by Luke. on Friday 30th September 07:02

Gruber

6,313 posts

234 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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ooh - difficult!

The M3 will be a bit quicker and perhaps a bit more engaging to drive, but then if you're buying a drop top you're probably happy to compromise on handling a little.

The S4 will be more sure-footed year round with the quattro gubbins and probably sounds nicer with the V8 soundtrack.

I think both could be criticised for looking a bit bling. And I doubt there's much in it when it comes to running costs.

So I think the S4 might just edge ahead for me.

Completely different story if we were talking tin-tops: e46 M3 every day.

Luke.

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11,630 posts

270 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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Yikes, just been checking out the cost of the Inspection II. £1200+VAT. yikes

And what's all this cracked floorplan business on the M3?

Edited by Luke. on Friday 30th September 10:01

T16OLE

2,962 posts

211 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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Heres two links for people to have a quick gander

S4

M3

Just noticed that M3 is local, photos are of the Celtic Manor Hotel & Golf Club



Edited by T16OLE on Friday 30th September 09:59

Luke.

Original Poster:

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Friday 30th September 2011
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T16OLE said:
Heres two links for people to have a quick gander

M3

S4
That blue M3's lovely.

Snowboy

8,028 posts

171 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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The Audi has a softtop the BMW a hard top.

Audi A4 has a big boot, even with the roof down.
BMW 3 has a tiny boot with the roof down.

Both will have a pleasant interior.
Both will drive well – BMW RWD goodness, AUDI 4wd fun.
I'd guess they will have similar running costs.

One is Red, one is blue.
Pick the colour you like best.

RichB

54,987 posts

304 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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Luke. said:
Is the M3 image a bit too chavvy these days?
yes

Pvapour

8,981 posts

273 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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M3 all day long (having owned an S4) far far more of occasion, avoid chavy colours & keep standard & I think they look lovely, especially the deep deep purple yes

NORTS

633 posts

240 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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Have considered both previously and I was surprised to see the 4dr S4 actually beat the M3 coupe around the top gear track!

Chr1sch

2,592 posts

213 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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Is there a particular reason why a conv?

I have read numerous times that the e36 & e46 M3's and particularly the S4 & RS4 conv's are really poor compared with their coupe equivalents....

and i quote:

"despite the extra chassis strengthening, the Cabriolet can’t match the tin-top model on uneven roads. While it’s admirably stiff for a four-seater convertible, there are more shakes and vibrations – and the faster you go, the more obvious they become. Another area where the four-door scores over the convertible is in terms of practicality. Boot space is limited by the fabric hood, and the optional RS bucket seats only make a token effort to tilt forward, so rear access is limited."

Read more: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/firstdrive...

danyeates

7,248 posts

242 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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Chr1sch said:
Is there a particular reason why a conv?

I have read numerous times that the e36 & e46 M3's and particularly the S4 & RS4 conv's are really poor compared with their coupe equivalents....

and i quote:

"despite the extra chassis strengthening, the Cabriolet can’t match the tin-top model on uneven roads. While it’s admirably stiff for a four-seater convertible, there are more shakes and vibrations – and the faster you go, the more obvious they become. Another area where the four-door scores over the convertible is in terms of practicality. Boot space is limited by the fabric hood, and the optional RS bucket seats only make a token effort to tilt forward, so rear access is limited."

Read more: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/firstdrive...
Indeed, get a Z4M Roadster if you want convertible, or get the coupe if you need 4 seats.

LuS1fer

43,030 posts

265 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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RichB said:
Luke. said:
Is the M3 image a bit too chavvy these days?
yes
Both much of a muchness in the "German cabrio driven by orange women" category.

Snowboy

8,028 posts

171 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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danyeates said:
Indeed, get a Z4M Roadster if you want convertible, or get the coupe if you need 4 seats.
Totally disagree with that sentiment.
If you're looking for a track car then perhaps it's good advice.

But for a road car where you're going to be making good progress and enjoying the car then the difference in chassis/performance of the cabrio is more than offset by the extra driving pleasure afforded by having the roof down.

In a road car I'd much rather have the roof off than a slightly stiffer chassis or a few KG less weight.

Cupramax

10,864 posts

272 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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Snowboy said:
The Audi has a softtop the BMW a hard top.
O'RLY??? Look again...

Baryonyx

18,195 posts

179 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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I've yet to see a four seater convertible look elegant, and as much as I love these performance cars I can't help but think that having a convertible misses the the point. Not the mention the fact that they look like open top buses. I thought Charabancs were outmoded!


Snowboy

8,028 posts

171 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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Baryonyx said:
I've yet to see a four seater convertible look elegant, and as much as I love these performance cars I can't help but think that having a convertible misses the the point.
Without trying to start an argument – I fear you have missed the point of the four seat cabrio.

Some people (eg. ME) like convertible cars.
We want the roof off, and it's not something we'll compromise on.

If we need 4 seats in a car then this doesn't change the fact we still want the roof off.

Yes, of course we'd (probably) prefer a Z4M or Lotus or Lamberarri Roadster.
But, we need four seats (and perhaps have a budget)– so we get a 4 seat cabrio.
Even when I had a 4 seat car and a 2 seat car, both were cabrios.

All I'm waiting for now is the 4 seat, 4 door cabrio – so it can be a sensible family car and still have the roof off.
If they put in a 3L twin turbo engine I'll be more than happy with that too.


(yes, I missed the MBW having a hard top stand, rather than a hard top. Sorry)


As for elegant 4 seat cabs.
The original Pug 306 Roadster was lovely.
I personally like the A4 and A5 cab and the 1 series cabs.

I don't like the A3 cab or the Golf cab though – or the megane or any new brand of Pugs.

I think it's to do with a saloon making a better cabrio than a hatchback.



Edited by Snowboy on Friday 30th September 11:54

Adz The Rat

17,220 posts

229 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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M3 convertible would be my choice, I really like them.

blackcab

1,259 posts

220 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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Had an E46 m3 convertible and loved it, both are brutal on running costs, m3 is quicker than an s4 Im told .. I think they are both great cars and you wont go wrong with either

E30M3SE

8,483 posts

216 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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M3, no question.

edo

16,699 posts

285 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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Plus and minuses to both.

S4 V8 seriously under-rated IMHO.

Drive both and go for the one you prefer.