Does the DVLA own mine, and everyone else's car?
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I was having an interesting discussion today with a colleauge who's on his high horse because his wife was done for using her Mobile whilst driving. All sorts of laws were quoted to me, but something that came up was that the DVLA actually own every motor vehicle registered to/with them??? Something to do with the cars being registered to them gives them legal title over the car, and that's why they can get away with lifting cars from the street for no tax blah blah blah! Now I always thought that if I bought and paid for something with my hard earned, then it was mine!? Has anyone heard this before? I can't get my head around it if it's fact, but sounds a little iffy to me!
Edited by rash_decision on Friday 30th September 19:44
Puddenchucker said:
I suspect he's getting confused with the fact that the DVLA / Government 'own' all UK registration numbers.
They grant you the right to display it on your vehicle, including personalised registrations no matter how much you paid for it.
I thought this, so told him it was the registration they hold title to, but he is adament it's the car! I can understand, to an extent, that this could be why it's not really theft if a car is towed off the street for non display of tax etc, but the ownership thing doesn't really ring true with me! What he did say is that this is why they can legally remove and crush your car, as it's pretty much their's to crush!??They grant you the right to display it on your vehicle, including personalised registrations no matter how much you paid for it.
You are confusing ownership with rights under criminal legislation.
The police can seize stolen goods to protect the original owner. They do not own the Goods these are still the property of the original owner.
In just the same way under motoring law the DVLA along with many other authorities can seize am offending vehicle for many reasons.
They can then do what they are legally entitled to under the law which may involve destruction if untaxed.
Ownership remains with the original owner just as liability to insure and tax the vehicle remains with the original owner.
You just lose the car. That's justice.
The police can seize stolen goods to protect the original owner. They do not own the Goods these are still the property of the original owner.
In just the same way under motoring law the DVLA along with many other authorities can seize am offending vehicle for many reasons.
They can then do what they are legally entitled to under the law which may involve destruction if untaxed.
Ownership remains with the original owner just as liability to insure and tax the vehicle remains with the original owner.
You just lose the car. That's justice.
mrmr96 said:
If you even slightly fell for this then I'm sorry to break it to you, but your friend has been winding you up.
I don't believe him, but he's so determined to convince myself and a few of the other guys that the DVLA own everyone's car! Edited by rash_decision on Friday 30th September 21:45
rash_decision said:
I was having an interesting discussion today with a colleauge who's on his high horse because his wife was done for using her Mobile whilst driving. All sorts of laws were quoted to me, but something that came up was that the DVLA actually own every motor vehicle registered to/with them??? Something to do with the cars being registered to them gives them legal title over the car, and that's why they can get away with lifting cars from the street for no tax blah blah blah! Now I always thought that if I bought and paid for something with my hard earned, then it was mine!? Has anyone heard this before? I can't get my head around it if it's fact, but sounds a little iffy to me!
Cars are not registered to the DVLA, they are registered with the DVLA and your friend is talking complete bEdited by rash_decision on Friday 30th September 19:44
cks!!.As others have already said, the only thing that is the property of the DVLA when it comes to your car is the registration plate!, you merely pay them for the use of it (unless you're the Queen of course).
4rephill said:
As others have already said, the only thing that is the property of the DVLA when it comes to your car is the registration plate!, you merely pay them for the use of it
How much does one pay the DVLA to use a numberplate? Not heard of this charge before, except in connection to private plates. Is there a charge for 'normal' randomly assigned plates too?
I'll need to show him this thread!! Lol. Maybe I'd be safer printing it and leaving it for him!!
He is still adament that once you fill in the first registration document and submit it to the DVLA, you are passing over title of ownership to the vehicle!! I think I'll buy my next car on credit and get the DVLA to pay for it!! Lol.
He is still adament that once you fill in the first registration document and submit it to the DVLA, you are passing over title of ownership to the vehicle!! I think I'll buy my next car on credit and get the DVLA to pay for it!! Lol.
rash_decision said:
I'll need to show him this thread!! Lol. Maybe I'd be safer printing it and leaving it for him!!
He is still adament that once you fill in the first registration document and submit it to the DVLA, you are passing over title of ownership to the vehicle!! I think I'll buy my next car on credit and get the DVLA to pay for it!! Lol.
Does he also think the Land Registry own all the houses too?He is still adament that once you fill in the first registration document and submit it to the DVLA, you are passing over title of ownership to the vehicle!! I think I'll buy my next car on credit and get the DVLA to pay for it!! Lol.
bigandclever said:
mrmr96 said:
How much does one pay the DVLA to use a numberplate? Not heard of this charge before, except in connection to private plates. Is there a charge for 'normal' randomly assigned plates too?
First time registration is (currently) £55
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