starting issues!!
starting issues!!
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matty1275

Original Poster:

190 posts

180 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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hi, just had bit of of a nightmare with the cerb.
lovely run out (only did about 30 miles), and thought i'd fill up before I went home.

damn thing wouldn't start when I had filled up.

the battery is nearly new and in good order, but it turned over really really slowly and wouldn't start.

tried jump starting off a nice passer by, but then got an electrical smell so stopped.

cursing and swearing I walked home (not too bad, only about a mile or so) collected some tools to investigate and went back.
just before I started fiddling, I thought I'd give it one last go and away she went!!

I presume the started motor didn't like it after a run out??
hot starting issues?
any other ideas?


Cheers
Matt

C3BER

4,714 posts

252 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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How's the connections on the battery? Loose and you guessed it...no power and stinks.

robsco

7,875 posts

205 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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Sounds more battery related than starter. You'd expect if it was the starter, that you'd get either a click, a whirr or simply nothing at all. The fact it was turning over, and slowly at that, both point to the battery.

matty1275

Original Poster:

190 posts

180 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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battery connections are fine.

does that point back at a dodgy start?

matty1275

Original Poster:

190 posts

180 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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the battery is only a couple of months old and was well charged before i went out for a run

andydw

255 posts

184 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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matty1275 said:
the battery is only a couple of months old and was well charged before i went out for a run
Similar issue with mine today - turned out I had the fans and aircon on whilst trying to start. Was fine when they were switched off. My battery might be rather low at the minute too.

C3BER

4,714 posts

252 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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Earth issues?

Big fuse?

matty1275

Original Poster:

190 posts

180 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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possibly, replaced fuse and cleaned all terminals, but wasn't damaged or that corroded.

might be a bad earth, any idea where to check?

matty1275

Original Poster:

190 posts

180 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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could it be as simple as the starter fixing bolts being a bit coroded

Ireland

3,517 posts

243 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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Sorry to be the possible bearer of bad news but that's how my starter motor went when it was on the way out.

matty1275

Original Poster:

190 posts

180 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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thats my sneaky feeling.

battery, big fuse, connections all ok.

just seems to play silly buggers once it gets warm.

points me at the starter motor as on it's way.

C3BER

4,714 posts

252 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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I went through two in a short period of time. But everything seemed fine with the battery. If it's the starter I hope you have small hands hehe

DAVEY DEE

647 posts

183 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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My sp6 does this all the time.Give it a blast,turn off,on starting it goes woo...woo..woo slowly & then will fire up.Always starts though.And only after a run & re starting pretty quick after stopping.Rest of the time it starts on the button.

Now I bet none of you are making the woo woo sound correctly ,but I quite like the idea of a load of Cerb owners going woo woo.Some no doubt even sounding like a train .

C3BER

4,714 posts

252 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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I went through two in a short period of time. But everything seemed fine with the battery. If it's the starter I hope you have small hands hehe

WhyTwo

1,159 posts

221 months

Monday 3rd October 2011
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Had the same issue on my Tuscan. First reared it's head after stopping for fuel enroute back from Le Mans. Had to wait about 1/2 hour and it started again.

Not sure if it's the same on an AJP but on a SP6 when they're on the way out they play up when hot. Replaced with a recon starter from Dom and it was fine after that.

Boatbuoy

1,975 posts

191 months

Monday 3rd October 2011
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Hmmmm! I watch this with interest, as mine has shown some of these symtoms lately.

While changing the clutch slave recently I had to remove the starter motor to get the bell housing off. Is this the same 'route in' (i.e. exhaust, propshaft & gearbox out) to change the starter, or is there a more straight forward approach?

Regards,
Olly

Ireland

3,517 posts

243 months

Monday 3rd October 2011
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You can get it changed from the engine bay.

From memory you need to remove the scuttle panel, the fuel rail, some small fuel pipes in the way, etc and you can just about access it from there.

It's not easy but you will do it in a few hours.

If you have a second pair of hands it makes it much easier.

Picture it as the starter being located just behind the radio but you have to get at it from above the engine. frown

matty1275

Original Poster:

190 posts

180 months

Monday 3rd October 2011
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thanks all, my gut feel was starter on it's way out, as i had this type of thing years ago on a mini.

I'll have to price up a new one and take the plunge.

I don't like the sinking feeling you get, when you have to push the cerb off the petrol station forecourt and hope when it cools down it might go again!!!

any idea where best to get a new one and a ball park price?

WhyTwo

1,159 posts

221 months

Monday 3rd October 2011
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TVR Power do reconditioned units. You take yours off and send/take it to them, they swap it for a recon unit. £195 + the Vat at £39. 1 year warranty.

matty1275

Original Poster:

190 posts

180 months

Monday 3rd October 2011
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there are some on ebay for about £200 outright.

has anyone got any idea if they are any good?