ADSL username question
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onedsla

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Wednesday 16th June 2004
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Hi - I'm just wondering if anybody could help put my mind at rest about a new ADSL service being offered at work. I'm not convinced that the project manager's suggestions are technically correct.

Say I had a router with a BT username (@HG40) & password configured which I can use in a central London office...

Would I be able to plug this in & connect to another ADSL service:

1) On another line in the office
2) At home which is local but using a different exchange (used HG7)
3) At a hotel in UK with broadband in the room (personally I don't see how this would work...)
4) as above but in Europe

Many thanks,
Dave

slinksport

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273 months

Wednesday 16th June 2004
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onedsla said:
Hi - I'm just wondering if anybody could help put my mind at rest about a new ADSL service being offered at work. I'm not convinced that the project manager's suggestions are technically correct.

Say I had a router with a BT username (@HG40) & password configured which I can use in a central London office...

Would I be able to plug this in & connect to another ADSL service:

1) On another line in the office
2) At home which is local but using a different exchange (used HG7)
3) At a hotel in UK with broadband in the room (personally I don't see how this would work...)
4) as above but in Europe

Many thanks,
Dave


AFAIK

1.) As long as the other line is connected to the same provider, Yes
2.) Same again, as long as it's connected to the same service provider
3.) Same theory again, but I doubt the hotel will be on the same provider, they'll most probably just have a network connection that you "jack" into.. (could be wrong on that one!)
4.) I really don't think it would work in Europe!

HTH

W

onedsla

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Wednesday 16th June 2004
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Thanks - makes sense to me. Interestingly BT are of the opinion that you can use it on any eneabled ADSL line though - I'll test this tonight (I'm on BT Broadband, work uses BT Click so maybe it's not a fair test).

The thinking behind taking the routers to hotels is to do with clashing IP addresses confusing the firewall (too many 192.168.xxxs) - perhaps the idea is to use it as a hub with the router sending the preset ip range to the laptop...

malman

2,258 posts

283 months

Wednesday 16th June 2004
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Haven't tried this personally but have thought about it.

1), 2) The line is ADSL enabled but not specically routed to a provider. You can logon with the BT test account name and password on any line. The routing to your provider is done after you have gone through the BT ATM network and is based on your logon I believe so in theory I think this will work. I have been meaning to try this on every install but never seem to get round to it.

3) I don't think you will find hotels with ADSL lines in the room. They may use ADSL to provide internet onnections to the rooms but I would think that will be ethernet or WiFi. If you see what I mean?

4) Europe - no chance not even sure if Europe uses pppoa rather than pppoe.

Disclaimer:
After a few bottles of stella the above could be complete boll**ks but after looking at the diagram at
www.adslguide.org/howitworks/default.asp
I think thats right.

Edited to say

PS - let me know if it works when you try it as this could come in handy. I should have just asked this on one of the ADSL forums at adslguide as someone is bound to have done it by now

>> Edited by malman on Wednesday 16th June 19:41

malman

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Wednesday 16th June 2004
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On the firewall front if you are using IPSEC you can get client software that uses a virtual adapter which can receive an IP address from you own DHCP server down the tunnel so no IP address issues. I have seen this on a couple of firewalls now I think safenet, sentinel and cisco clients have it for sure but it depends on you firewall.

Neil

onedsla

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Thursday 17th June 2004
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Cheers Neil - very interesting on the firewall front - It's not directly my area (huge company, centrally run IT service etc) but I can see that this issue is causing a big headache for BT (who provide the service) and ultimatly the 'customer' who's being messed about. Will be taking this up with the firewall team as this sounds far easier than configuring fixed ip ranges on the 1000's of home users out there in Europe!

malman

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283 months

Thursday 17th June 2004
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If you have a "Firewall Team" I would have thought they had already had a look at this and they probably know more about it than me.

onedsla

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Thursday 17th June 2004
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Back to the ADSL - I've tried reconfiguring our office ADSL router using 2 other username / password combos - one from tiscali, one from pipex - neither will connect. I'll try the other way around at home football / girlfriend permitting.

malman

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283 months

Thursday 17th June 2004
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I hope the others were not connected at the same time? Could be interesting to see if the RADIUS servers flag up an alert