458 residuals - can anyone offer me a prediction ?
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I'm interested to know what a 200k nicely specced 458 would be worth after a year ? Assuming you got one within the next 6 months as a new factory spec'd car. Obv we can only guess, but I'm curious as they seem to be holding value well at the moment. Assume low miles, maybe 2-4k a year.
My upcoming car fits your bill, delivery in April/May and quite a few options and some personalisation.
Frankly I'm sticking my head in the sand regarding the residual - I've busted my b@lls for 7 years in the African jungle and regard this as my reward. The 458 is drop-dead gorgeous and I just love it to bits. The plan is to sell after two years as I have other Ferraris and a hankering for an F40 at some point, but perhaps I won't. She will be rather special (I visited the Atelier in Maranello to spec her two weeks ago) and I can well imagine keeping her, especially since I hate selling cars in general.
Considering the 2014 selling option and the fact that spiders will be easier to get hold of by then, I am expecting at least a 30% drop, so let's say 130 - 140k in a UK scenario (mine is coming through Holland). But I prefer not to think about it.
Onno
Frankly I'm sticking my head in the sand regarding the residual - I've busted my b@lls for 7 years in the African jungle and regard this as my reward. The 458 is drop-dead gorgeous and I just love it to bits. The plan is to sell after two years as I have other Ferraris and a hankering for an F40 at some point, but perhaps I won't. She will be rather special (I visited the Atelier in Maranello to spec her two weeks ago) and I can well imagine keeping her, especially since I hate selling cars in general.
Considering the 2014 selling option and the fact that spiders will be easier to get hold of by then, I am expecting at least a 30% drop, so let's say 130 - 140k in a UK scenario (mine is coming through Holland). But I prefer not to think about it.
Onno
Comes down to supply and demand as you know... Right now prices are holding because not many cars are on the market in used form.
In a years time how many more cars will have been supplied to the UK and how many of those will be forsale? I think in a year to 18 months the numbers are still going to look low in the UK and I doubt they will be at 130k, I am thinking 160k-170k still.
If they are 130k then shoot me an email and I will buy yours from you
In a years time how many more cars will have been supplied to the UK and how many of those will be forsale? I think in a year to 18 months the numbers are still going to look low in the UK and I doubt they will be at 130k, I am thinking 160k-170k still.
If they are 130k then shoot me an email and I will buy yours from you
-DeaDLocK- said:
I'm no expert, but I think it will be interesting. The introduction of a hard top roof for the spider will probably make the normal coupe a lot more redundant than in any of the previous models.
I agree, although the introduction of the folding hardtop, I would think, will slow sales of the coupe once they're both available and therefore there should be less coupes on the market after a few years.Edited by -DeaDLocK- on Tuesday 4th October 06:34
Soovy said:
Do we think thank the Spider (and the fact it is a hardtop roof) will hammer the coupe residuals?
Who is going to want the tintop?
Me, probably. I have never yet driven a convertible that has not had some element of scuttle shake and been less rigid than the hard top and that goes for ones with metal folding roofs too. Who is going to want the tintop?
craigjm said:
Soovy said:
Do we think thank the Spider (and the fact it is a hardtop roof) will hammer the coupe residuals?
Who is going to want the tintop?
Me, probably. I have never yet driven a convertible that has not had some element of scuttle shake and been less rigid than the hard top and that goes for ones with metal folding roofs too. Who is going to want the tintop?
If you are trying to predict residuals you might as well just take up voodoo. It is not a science and many things can impact on it. If you can afford to buy one you can afford to suck up the depreciation which only really matters on the day you sell. Worrying about residuals is like homeowners thinking they are rich when house prices go up, it only matters when you get rid of the thing so dont worry. Enjoy the car or.... buy something else.
sjr-997 said:
ok, so the general feeling is, from what I can read here...that if you spec up a standard £167k ish car to just shy of £200k, you will loose around £30k in the first year. or the equiv to the VAT @ 20%. this of course assumes no world financial meltdown !
Financial meltdown, only if the Italians default 
Soovy said:
Who is going to want the tintop?
Since I only signed 10 days ago, quite clearly I do. The lines of the Berlinetta are much better, I hardly ever drive open and have a convertible for that, it saves quite a bit of cash, it saves weight, the 458 is a sportscar more than boulevard cruiser, and I wanted a two-tone car (which doesn't work with the Spider lines). Finally I did not want to wait an additional 12 months.Onno
Based on the prices of 430 coupe's currently, it would take 5 years to get down to 50% depreciation from new. I'm thinking the VAT plus a bit more, so 30% after 1-2 years. so assuming £200k spec'd new, £140-150k is about right, so loss of £40k in the first year prob worst case. quite a chunk of change. what will be interesting is comparing values of Lambo's to Macca's to Fezzers over the next couple of years as the new Murc's come out and compete with MP12 and 458 for attention. I think ferrari will win that one, but only just.
If there is a second recession, initially there may be some panic selling, but production volumes will fall resulting in firming up of used 458 prices. The 458 Spyder will also be more expensive, probably £15-20k extra. Properly specced should come in at £220k so it may be a long while before you see a £150K Italia or MP4-12C....especially if a 5 year old -"analogue" Gallardo is still £80-90K!!
sjr-997 said:
I'm interested to know what a 200k nicely specced 458 would be worth after a year ?
If you have the cash, just get it, relax and enjoy it. Don't worry about what it's worth...Soovy said:
Who is going to want the tintop?
I don't understand racing enthusiasts living here in this crappy weather who would want an open top car. Personally I will skip the Spider and wait for the Scud version.Gassing Station | Supercar General | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff