Picture of Leven drop links
Picture of Leven drop links
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JonyTVR

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2,579 posts

220 months

Tuesday 4th October 2011
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Has anyone got a pic of some Leven ARB rose jointed drop links handy?

cheers

Jon

Chimpafrolic

9,637 posts

210 months

Tuesday 4th October 2011
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Second photo shows one of my front Leven drop links fitted.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

I now have these links front & rear, with the Gaz Gold Pros they helped to transform the handling on my Chim.

The Leven links are an excellent replacement to the comedy Triumph TR6 type originals that don't last 10 minutes.

Highly recommended.

JonyTVR

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2,579 posts

220 months

Tuesday 4th October 2011
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cracking! they look just like the ones i have just got, though I am slightly bamboozled by how you get the rubber boots on them, did you have to cut them at all?

taylormj4

1,635 posts

297 months

Tuesday 4th October 2011
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Was looking at my rear ARB and drop links last night after I'd dropped teh ARB to replace the fuel lines. I still have the OEM fitted and the rubber inserts on the drop link joints look pretty tired. Made me think about replacing them but what will I really be getting for my money ?
I don't understand how the better drop links help the handling. They're not like suspension bushes that help to stop the suspension geometry changing, they just try to keep the wheels at the same relative height on each side thereby reducing body roll. The ARB and drop links don't help control the suspension geometry as far as I can tell, that's down to the suspenion arms, bushes, springs and dampers.
I can see how a stiffer ARB might make some difference but how do the replacement drop links improve on the standard setup ?

Pink_Floyd

900 posts

252 months

Tuesday 4th October 2011
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taylormj4 said:
but how do the replacement drop links improve on the standard setup ?
The standard setup has rubber bits in it which compress and move, so as the wishbones move up and down the rubber absorbs some of the movement so less movement is transferd to the ARB. With the rose jointed ones as soon as the wishbone move the ARB does as well.

Chimpafrolic

9,637 posts

210 months

Tuesday 4th October 2011
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JonyTVR said:
cracking! they look just like the ones i have just got, though I am slightly bamboozled by how you get the rubber boots on them, did you have to cut them at all?
The Leven links should come with the rubber boots already fitted so I'm not sure which ones you have?

The Steve Heath ones do not have rubber boots and are usually anodised red or blue.

If you have Leven ones that someone has taken the boots off then getting them back on is tricky.

Because I am inquisitive I removed the boot from one of mine before fitting, I just wanted to have a look at the rose joint.

Turns out the joints are realy great quality brass lined jobs with a needle point grease nipple.

The problem was I had the devil's own job getting the damn boot back over the joint rolleyes

In the end I used a Tea Spoon to lever it back on laugh

Chimpafrolic

9,637 posts

210 months

Tuesday 4th October 2011
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Pink_Floyd said:
taylormj4 said:
but how do the replacement drop links improve on the standard setup ?
The standard setup has rubber bits in it which compress and move, so as the wishbones move up and down the rubber absorbs some of the movement so less movement is transferd to the ARB. With the rose jointed ones as soon as the wishbone move the ARB does as well.
Pink Floyd is spot on here.

I would also add that the standard Triumph TR6 type links don’t last well at all, maybe even as little as a few thousand miles before they start to wear out.

The rubber splits & becomes un-bonded from the ball socket, so the joint ends up moving through its full articulation before any load is transferred from the wishbone to the ARB.

Mine were actually doing nothing until the threaded stub axle hit the inner metal edge of the ball socket.

It gets worse; my links were so worn the threaded stub axle had actually started to eat away at the inner edge of the ball socket.

The net result was my wishbones moved a considerable amount before the ARB came into play, if at all.

Remember just a small amount of additional movement in a worn drop link will translate to a significant amount of suspension articulation at the road wheel end of things.

Replacing a set of knackered standard links with rose jointed ones is just like getting your ARB back after being without it for years.

If my experience is anything to go by you will definitely feel the improvements in handling.

taylormj4

1,635 posts

297 months

Tuesday 4th October 2011
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Ah yes, hadn't thought that the slack would be magnified due to the drop link mountings being so far in board; good point.

What specific aspect of the handling did you notice improved then. Presumably cornering. Did it feel more stable, more grip ?