upgrading service parts / fluids?
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after always owning older and tuned car my cars have always had ester based fully sinthetic oil, pro cool anti freeze, never needed air filter as had upgrade, better brake fluid, uprated pads and so on!
now i have a standard mazda 6 mps and its due a service this week and i am planing to provide mazda better oil as they use part synthetic which is pants for turbo car. its having coolant and brake fluid change so i was thinking of suppying:
-k & n panel filter.
- mobil 1 esp 5w -30 (not ester based but need to buy 10liters otherwise)
- silkolene pro r brake fluid or castrol roseponse dot4 brake fluid.
- motul collant.
now is this a over kill? its not much dearer than the mazda stuff but hassel getting it!
what do you guys think?
now i have a standard mazda 6 mps and its due a service this week and i am planing to provide mazda better oil as they use part synthetic which is pants for turbo car. its having coolant and brake fluid change so i was thinking of suppying:
-k & n panel filter.
- mobil 1 esp 5w -30 (not ester based but need to buy 10liters otherwise)
- silkolene pro r brake fluid or castrol roseponse dot4 brake fluid.
- motul collant.
now is this a over kill? its not much dearer than the mazda stuff but hassel getting it!
what do you guys think?
Shear stability, thermal stability, sludging are all potential problems with semi-synthetic oils of turbocharged engines.
Additionally, in the case of the Mazdaspeed engines, you have IIRC potential issues with crankcase ventilation in combination with direct injection. A more stable eg PAO oil may be less likely to leave lots of carbon deposits on the back of the inlet valves.
Additionally, in the case of the Mazdaspeed engines, you have IIRC potential issues with crankcase ventilation in combination with direct injection. A more stable eg PAO oil may be less likely to leave lots of carbon deposits on the back of the inlet valves.
My big book on fluids says it used to be 5/30 semi, but it's now 5/30 fully synthetic*. Coolant is G30 and brake fluid is DOT4.
Dunno if that's any help.
Meets Ford WSS-M2C913-C
Dunno if that's any help.
- The book is a Comma workshop manual, and lists X-tech as the oil. Up to 2010, Xtech used to be semi synthetic, but they changed the specification to Fully synthetic in 2011.
Meets Ford WSS-M2C913-C
sorry the warrenty runs out the after day the car is serviced and i am only getting it done by them as they will honnor any work that is required when it is serviced.
after the service i have a 5 year old mazda with no warrenty!
as for putting there budget part syn over something like silkolene pro s ester based oil! i had a 14 year 450bhp r33 skyline with not one engine issue over 4 years and it was used very hard and i mainly put this down to ester based oils a 3k oil changes!
main iusses on high powered tuned turbo'ed cars is the heat oil is put through but not getting to tick an oil so the turbo gets better flow of oil and get the oil quicker on start up!
as its a standard car i think il just give them the cash as time is tight and i doubt il tune this car.
must be other people out there though who use upgraded service part rather than what the manufsctur use as its normally well over priced and middle of the road stuff?
lets be honest if mazda want to make a profit on decent oil over the stuff the do they would have to charge £80-90 for 5 liters of oil and they know pwoplw will go else where!
after the service i have a 5 year old mazda with no warrenty!
as for putting there budget part syn over something like silkolene pro s ester based oil! i had a 14 year 450bhp r33 skyline with not one engine issue over 4 years and it was used very hard and i mainly put this down to ester based oils a 3k oil changes!
main iusses on high powered tuned turbo'ed cars is the heat oil is put through but not getting to tick an oil so the turbo gets better flow of oil and get the oil quicker on start up!
as its a standard car i think il just give them the cash as time is tight and i doubt il tune this car.
must be other people out there though who use upgraded service part rather than what the manufsctur use as its normally well over priced and middle of the road stuff?
lets be honest if mazda want to make a profit on decent oil over the stuff the do they would have to charge £80-90 for 5 liters of oil and they know pwoplw will go else where!
I always use an independent, a guy I really trust.
And he always lets me bring my own oils, mainly because he doesn't stock what I use.
Millers Competition, as its the only oil that seems to make my damn tappets quiet!
I would say that a Mazda dealership would be hedgy about putting in an oil other than they supply whilst a car is technically under warranty.
And he always lets me bring my own oils, mainly because he doesn't stock what I use.
Millers Competition, as its the only oil that seems to make my damn tappets quiet!
I would say that a Mazda dealership would be hedgy about putting in an oil other than they supply whilst a car is technically under warranty.
My Mondeo has a Mazda MZR engine. I put in 5W30 Fully Synth oil one service (I had it on the shelf), and the engine didn't seem to like it at all - tappety and used half a litre in 2000 miles.
Replaced the fully synth with semi synth, and 5k later it hasn't used a drop.
Both Mobil oils, both 5W30.
Replaced the fully synth with semi synth, and 5k later it hasn't used a drop.
Both Mobil oils, both 5W30.
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