Delta Integrale Evo 2 - worthy addition to fleet?
Discussion
Am seriously lusting after a mint Lancia delta Integrale Evo 1 or 2 to the point where I am prepared to make space in the garage for one.
Am keen to hear views on the Evo from those who have driven/owned one. It would be a weekend treat for workouts on some fine local country roads.
Any info on prices for mint examples, buying guide type info (have seen the Evo one) would be much appreciated.
From my preliminary research, seems best examples command prices of £22k+. Is a mint Evo 1 a better proposition than a less than mint 2?
Start of a Wonderful Italian love affair OR utter madness (buy a Clio v6 mk2 and keep the change?!)
Batster
Am keen to hear views on the Evo from those who have driven/owned one. It would be a weekend treat for workouts on some fine local country roads.
Any info on prices for mint examples, buying guide type info (have seen the Evo one) would be much appreciated.
From my preliminary research, seems best examples command prices of £22k+. Is a mint Evo 1 a better proposition than a less than mint 2?
Start of a Wonderful Italian love affair OR utter madness (buy a Clio v6 mk2 and keep the change?!)
Batster
Go for it! Integrale is a lovely car. I had an Evo 2 back in 1996. Great car. I've had lots of cars over the years but the Integrale is one of the few my wife still makes comments about (normally along the lines of why I sold it.)
I still think they look brilliant. Have also considered buying one and a couple of years back made an offer on a UK car but couldn't reach agreement with the seller on the price. I also looked at one here in Switzerland. I was a bit nervous about driving it because since owning mine I have owned much faster and more powerful cars. But the Integrale still felt great.
Your price expectations seem about right.
If you do buy one, don't hesitate to post pictures and thoughts.
I still think they look brilliant. Have also considered buying one and a couple of years back made an offer on a UK car but couldn't reach agreement with the seller on the price. I also looked at one here in Switzerland. I was a bit nervous about driving it because since owning mine I have owned much faster and more powerful cars. But the Integrale still felt great.
Your price expectations seem about right.
If you do buy one, don't hesitate to post pictures and thoughts.
Great cars, had one in the fleet for over 11 years. Superb precense on the road and epic to drive, still gets a lot of looks. However prices have increased and good cars are hard to find. Do a search for Evocorner on Delphi forums for the best advice on them, used to be a regular on there years ago.
Don't forget, these cars can be VERY expensive to maintain to get them running right and some parts are hard to find.
Good luck and enjoy!
Don't forget, these cars can be VERY expensive to maintain to get them running right and some parts are hard to find.
Good luck and enjoy!
I've done 15k in 3 years in various Integrales; the last one an Evo2, 10k in 18 months.
Take your time and look for a good one from someone who knows what they are lalking about. Generally the lower the miles the better.
What gone wrong over the last 10k and 18 months:
- Power steering pump
- Front Wheel bearing (NSF)
- Seized NSF brake caliper
- Faulty dashboard lights
That's it. I hammered mine back from Anglesey a few Sundays ago. Early morning down through Wales to Cheltenham and home to London. Out of all the cars i've owned (I've had some crackers many, many, many times more expensive!!) it was the best car to be doing that drive in.....
By all means get one, but they do need looking after by a specialist. The are not a Scooby; get in it, thrash it, occasionally service it and it will be bomb proof.
Take your time and look for a good one from someone who knows what they are lalking about. Generally the lower the miles the better.
What gone wrong over the last 10k and 18 months:
- Power steering pump
- Front Wheel bearing (NSF)
- Seized NSF brake caliper
- Faulty dashboard lights
That's it. I hammered mine back from Anglesey a few Sundays ago. Early morning down through Wales to Cheltenham and home to London. Out of all the cars i've owned (I've had some crackers many, many, many times more expensive!!) it was the best car to be doing that drive in.....
By all means get one, but they do need looking after by a specialist. The are not a Scooby; get in it, thrash it, occasionally service it and it will be bomb proof.
I owned an Evo 1 for 6 years, bought in Italy and drove it over. It is the one car that I still yearn for. I drove it as a daily driver. Several times a year I used to wake up at 4.00am in June to take a blast across wales in it. In fact getting it to below an average of 10 mpg crossing Wales brought a huge smile. I can't think of another car that could get me up at that ungodly hour several times a year just for a hoon. I think it's also the car that I washed the most too. It always ran faster after a wash due to the intercooler being wet. Cold humid mornings also gave this notable power increase.
The car just felt special just as you got in even without turning the engine on. But that lovely noise of the counter balancing shafts and the unmistakable whine really stood the hairs on the back of your neck. I used to even enjoy sitting in the traffic and seeing the cars in front through the heat haze created by the exhaust and turbo heat escaping through the bonnet grills.
Mine never missed a beat for 6 years and it was driven hard as it should be. I am of the school of thought that things should get hot mechanically it's good for them drive em hard and drive them smooth is my motto.
The downsides. It's got a small tank and filling up was all to regular, plus nearly every time someone wanted to chat, it was great for the first couple of years then got tiresome.
The antiroll bar drop links wear very quick even the uprated ones
The exhaust wears quick too
Tyres you go through lots
The brakes get very hot and can boil, you have to adjust driving accordingly
Servicing was always a grand! Normally suspension bushes and the such like and belt changes
I kept mine factory spec, it actually sold for ,ore than I bought it for, so factoring this in including servicing and other maintenance costs was the cheapest and best car I have ever had the pleasure of owning.
The car just felt special just as you got in even without turning the engine on. But that lovely noise of the counter balancing shafts and the unmistakable whine really stood the hairs on the back of your neck. I used to even enjoy sitting in the traffic and seeing the cars in front through the heat haze created by the exhaust and turbo heat escaping through the bonnet grills.
Mine never missed a beat for 6 years and it was driven hard as it should be. I am of the school of thought that things should get hot mechanically it's good for them drive em hard and drive them smooth is my motto.
The downsides. It's got a small tank and filling up was all to regular, plus nearly every time someone wanted to chat, it was great for the first couple of years then got tiresome.
The antiroll bar drop links wear very quick even the uprated ones
The exhaust wears quick too
Tyres you go through lots
The brakes get very hot and can boil, you have to adjust driving accordingly
Servicing was always a grand! Normally suspension bushes and the such like and belt changes
I kept mine factory spec, it actually sold for ,ore than I bought it for, so factoring this in including servicing and other maintenance costs was the cheapest and best car I have ever had the pleasure of owning.
Edited by Omaruk on Tuesday 4th October 23:06
Edited by Omaruk on Tuesday 4th October 23:10
Oh when I got mine it was what can only be described as mint, owned by a collector in Italy with 6k miles on it or rather 10kms on the clock. It was one of the first Evo 1 s with the homologation intercooler water spray. This was fitted to just a few hundred early cars.
Avoid Swiss cars they had less power due to emissions restrictions and I believe used the 8v engine
Avoid Swiss cars they had less power due to emissions restrictions and I believe used the 8v engine
Edited by Omaruk on Tuesday 4th October 23:08
I wouldn't get one at the moment, there is a lot of serious metal out there for twenty grand, never mind thirty. Walkers are expensive but at least they have been round for a few years. There are too many dodgy dealers latching onto the market and punting out crap for unbelievable prices.
Being left hand drive doesn't help as the Euro situation has pushed prices up, I bought an Evo 2 in 2003 for 9 grand. I sold a Lagos Blue one in 2007 for 9 grand. Would I have it back for even 15 grand? - no way.
How about a cossie? similar fun...
Being left hand drive doesn't help as the Euro situation has pushed prices up, I bought an Evo 2 in 2003 for 9 grand. I sold a Lagos Blue one in 2007 for 9 grand. Would I have it back for even 15 grand? - no way.
How about a cossie? similar fun...
Batster said:
Talked to Walkers in North Allerton today who seem to know their onions when it comes to Evos.
Scary to hear mint Evo 2s can go for mid to high thirties....!
Do i want one that badly i have to ask myself.
B
It seems some people ask that much -> http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2638303.htmScary to hear mint Evo 2s can go for mid to high thirties....!
Do i want one that badly i have to ask myself.
B
Rather like the RS500 in the other thread there's bound to be some cheaper ones about though
Do it. But you don't need to spend that much for a good, useable, enjoyable one. Half that and less.
There is a reason why I've owned an integrale for over 15 years - had two for one of those years. A 16V for 8 years, and an evo1, for close to 8 years.
Stick winter tyres on it and go anywhere this winter. Sideways if it's dry, and sideways, but controllably, if it's snowy ;-)
I can't think of anything I would want to replace it with - fun to drive, in all weathers, on all roads, all of the time.
And still people come and talk to you about them ;-)
Bri
There is a reason why I've owned an integrale for over 15 years - had two for one of those years. A 16V for 8 years, and an evo1, for close to 8 years.
Stick winter tyres on it and go anywhere this winter. Sideways if it's dry, and sideways, but controllably, if it's snowy ;-)
I can't think of anything I would want to replace it with - fun to drive, in all weathers, on all roads, all of the time.
And still people come and talk to you about them ;-)
Bri
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