Daily Driver - Anglia, Wolseley or Morris Oxford?
Daily Driver - Anglia, Wolseley or Morris Oxford?

Poll: Daily Driver - Anglia, Wolseley or Morris Oxford?

Total Members Polled: 63

Ford Anglia 100e: 25%
Wolseley 1500: 52%
Morris Oxford: 22%
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lewis s

Original Poster:

5,953 posts

220 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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I am going to see some cars soon (see above) and was wondering before i go what other peoples opinions are of each.

The criteria i have is ok for fairly regular use, tax free and less than £2500. Any others i should look at that you can find around the Bedfordshire area?

jr6yam

1,363 posts

212 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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Hi Lewis,
How about an Austin 1100/1300. Practical, cheap to run, nice to drive


heebeegeetee

30,121 posts

277 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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100e too old and a bit too anonymous imo, whereas a 105 e is really quite nice to drive and puts smiles on people's faces everywhere.

Not sure what a Wolsely 1500 is, is that the Wolseley version of the Riley 1.5? If so, I think might vote would go here, for being a compact yet charismatic and practical design.

Morris Oxford? Might be too big and too little support in the spares market, esp for bodywork.

smile

williamp

20,378 posts

302 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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those are fine, if a little staid vehicles.

How about the Ro ver P6/Triumph 2000?? Good looking, large-ish, well built reliable cars with some very interesting oily bits to play with (P6 has horizontal coil springs at the front and a de dion rear end- designed, I believe to fit their gas turbine engine at a latter stage. The Triumph could have an early form of fuel injection, too.. Lovely stuff)


HenryRoyce

829 posts

188 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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From your list I would choose the Wolseley 1500, but the 1100/1300 and Rover P6 2000 are good suggestions, too. The Rover will be the nicest to drive.

Faust66

2,407 posts

194 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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If I had to have one of the 3 cars listed, I'd go for the Ford.

Better parts availablility, lot of owner club support and plenty of scope for modifications (if that's your thing).

The Wolsley and Morris are both nice cars, but I'm not sure they'd stand up to regular use. It might also be tricky to find spares for 'em as well.

At least when the Ford starts rusting (and it will!) it'll be easier to find replacement panels.

ETA: have you considered a Volvo Amazon? I run one as a daily driver and I've had no problems yet. Starts 1st turn of the key and the heater is great for winter driving. Tough as old boots, these cars! £2500 should get you a fairly good example of a late 2 litre twin carb model.

Good luck OP - I'll be interested to hear how you get on.

Edited by Faust66 on Thursday 6th October 09:56

spoodler

2,304 posts

184 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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Depending on your statement regarding regular use I might find the 100e to be woefully underpowered and a little vulnerable feeling mixing it with moderns. My vote would go for the Wolseley as unlike the 100e they are a pleasant place to be inside so you can at least be comfortable whilst waiting for the RAC...joking apart, the interior is where you will hopefully be spending your driving time and the Wolseley is a notch above the others - they also drive better/more modern feeling. The B series engines have plenty of spares and if you are paying £2500 for any of the above you shouldn't need to worry about bodywork for a while. If you look into it you'll find there are plenty of upgrades for all three to improve the driving dynamics, performance, headlights etc...I'd stay away from sidevalves tho' unless you really want the old car experience
If it's spares support you want then a Herald or Minor can't be beat. We run a '67 Herald and a Spitfire based kit as dailies and they both manage admirably.

lewis s

Original Poster:

5,953 posts

220 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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Have just been to test drive the Anglia. Was a very nice car and very solid but sooooo slow. It made my girlfriends Morris 1000 feel fast and i think will be too underpowered as a daily. I will look at the rovers and update with any progress throughout the day smile

na

7,898 posts

263 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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a P6 will seem (so I've read) as it did at first release light years ahead of a 100e

I'm bias as I had a P6 excellent daily driver, narrow, (but long) capable of very long journeys too but even the 2000 sc a bit heavy on petrol around town

my first car was a Wolseley 1500 and my freind had on before me, Minor big brother, I think you'd like that car too just as easy to drive, note as you probably know they came in different levels of interior and exterior finish

I've always fancied a Riley 1.5 too smile

jr6yam

1,363 posts

212 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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P6 Rovers are superb cars, and because they are underrated tend to be affordable
I've had 3; the best being a 3500 Auto
As has been mentioned they have discs all round and a De Dion rear axle so they
stop and handle well, not bad for a car conceived in the fifties.
They do need careful checking for rust though, the bolt on panels make it easy
to cover up.

rolando

2,407 posts

184 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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For daily use it's definitely the Wolsley. Morris Minor floorpan with B series mechanicals.

However, as others have already suggested, the P6 Rover is a superb car with outstanding handling. I've owned two 2200s, one manual and one automatic. The manual one was remarkably quick. Very practical and comfortable cars and capable of long distances. Petrol consumption and Lucas electrics are the downside.

On any car of this age, watch out for covered up corrosion.

Good luck with your search.

lewis s

Original Poster:

5,953 posts

220 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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The P6 Rover is nice, but unfortunately i think the petrol will be a bit of a killer for me. I am looking for a car with probably 1.6l capacity max (for insurance as well). Austin 1100 / 1300 are nice but none nearby at the moment frown

I am seeing the Wolseley 1500 after work tomorrow so will post back then thumbup

In the meantime i will keep scouring the net for other options.

There are a couple of Singers as well that i have seen online and look interesting. Am a bit worried about sares availability though.

52classic

2,638 posts

239 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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I have a pretty tidy 100e and I can tell you that whilst quaint, they are not really up to modern traffic conditions.

Wolseley is a good choice, under priced IMHO but they can be real rust buckets unless you get a good one. Riley 1.5 would be more of a PH car though, stick on number plate, a pair of D700 spots and buy yourself some string backed driving gloves!

Love 1100/1300's 'specially a 1300GT look alike.

Morris Oxford....... Make it a 60's minicab replica and you could get some acting jobs with it!

hidetheelephants

35,695 posts

222 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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All of these rust like billio, so check for tinworm. The Wolseley is based on the Morris Minor floorpan and has similar(but not the same) running gear, so should drive like a big moggie. Which Oxford; the Pininfarina Oxbridge or the earlier overgrown Morris Minor(there it is again!)? The latter is still rolling off the Hindustan production line in Calcutta. In standard form I'd say either of the BMC products would beat the Ford in daily use having more power and slightly better brakes, but I wouldn't advise using a standard one like that. It would be a pain to drive so uprated brakes, seatbelts and a bit more power are the order of the day.

na

7,898 posts

263 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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jr6yam said:
the best being a 3500 Auto
3500S (the manual)biggrin

but at 17 mpg around town you're right to rule out the bigger engine ones

lewis s said:
1.6l capacity max (for insurance as well)
you’ve lost me there, it doesn’t matter on classic insurance

lewis s said:
I am seeing the Wolseley 1500 after work tomorrow so will post back then thumbup
unless it’s a dog you’ll like it as you like Minors, good luck thumbup

A lot of braking problems come from the present/previous owners not fully and properly servicing them and the rest of the car, perhaps having the tyres and brakes old and/or hard usually because the car isn't driven enough

EFS

Edited by na on Thursday 6th October 21:47

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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jr6yam said:
Hi Lewis,
How about an Austin 1100/1300. Practical, cheap to run, nice to drive
But don't get the tail out of line. Absolute swine to catch on the backlash...

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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heebeegeetee said:
100e too old and a bit too anonymous imo, whereas a 105 e is really quite nice to drive and puts smiles on people's faces everywhere.
Got it in one...smile

lewis s

Original Poster:

5,953 posts

220 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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na said:
lewis s said:
1.6l capacity max (for insurance as well)
you’ve lost me there, it doesn’t matter on classic insurance
Insurance with Lancaster is £200 on a Morris / Wolseley and £700 for the Rover (22 years old) frown

mph

2,376 posts

311 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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Wolseley every time. A bit more upmarket than the Ford and quite sporty in the day.

Friend had a Riley version when we were at college in the 70's, lovely car and surprisingly nippy.

Steffan

10,362 posts

257 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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Wolseley 1500 is by far the best drivers car.

I think the 100E would definitely be underpowered and a liability on motorways. From memory many of these were three speed but it is a while since I drove one. A three speed would be a no no for me in modern traffic.

The Morris Oxford is not as good a car as the Wolseley nor as capable of keeping up with the traffic nor as well trimmed nor as comfortable nor as attractive in style. Once again motorways would compromise the car.

The Wolseley 1500 was designed and engineered by Gerald Palmer the greatest British Car designer after Alec Issigonis. He alss designed the Jowett Javelin and the MG Magnette, the MGA and the MGA Twin Cam engine, amongst many others. A truly gifted designer of cars and a modest self effacing man.

The Wolseley 1500 was a really nippy and capable car in the 1950's and is the only car in this group that could comfortably hold its own in modern traffic and cruise at 70mph on motorways.

It is the only true monocoque in this group and comfortable lighter and therefore cheaper to run and quicker than the others. The Wolseley is also far better presented and trimmed with leather upholstery and walnut dashboard and capping's. A real London Club atmosphere.

Spares are plentiful particularly mechanical the B series engine can be upgraded to an 1800 cc unit if that is your desire and depending on originality issues. A conversion is available to 5 speed gearbox which does improve the motorway miles. Again a matter of choice, but not available on the other two cars.

I still own an earlier 15/50 Wolseley which is not as good a car as the 1500 but still fun at weekend. I keep it because I have had it years and the memories of family outings are still fresh every time I drive the car. My kids now in their 40's still love the car.

I have owned both the 100E and the Oxford in the past.

Neither car is capable of modern daily driving and please remember I still drive my Wolseley 15/50 every week.I t is an excellent car but the 1500 is much more modern and lighter. The 1500 is a better car, but for personal reasons as stated I keep my 15/50.

The Wolseley 1500 is by far the best regular daily driver.