147 GTA vs Clio 182?
Discussion
Morning you lovely bunch of PH'ers. Happy Friday to you all.
I'm test driving a 182 and a GTA tomorrow. But to be honest really like the look of both of them. They're similiar cost buy and insure. But got a feeling the 182 may be more fun, even though is about 70 BHP less. But feel the GTA is really that much more special.
What would you go for?
I'm test driving a 182 and a GTA tomorrow. But to be honest really like the look of both of them. They're similiar cost buy and insure. But got a feeling the 182 may be more fun, even though is about 70 BHP less. But feel the GTA is really that much more special.
What would you go for?
They're exteremly different cars in my opinion.
The 147 was the most powerful FWD hot hatch... amazing engine and sound, italian styling etc.
The Clio is a precise little tool but I personally think they get too much praise.
Running the Alfa I'm guessing will cost you a lot more.
I'd have the alfa over the clio though.
The 147 was the most powerful FWD hot hatch... amazing engine and sound, italian styling etc.
The Clio is a precise little tool but I personally think they get too much praise.
Running the Alfa I'm guessing will cost you a lot more.
I'd have the alfa over the clio though.
Alfa all day long, the 'feeling special' bit, applies when you walk up to it and look at it, when you sit in it and listen to the engine, when you drive it and enjoy it, to walking away from it and looking back.
The Clio, no doubt a quality tool, will be special for those less frequent moments when you lift the inside rear wheel round a tight bend, or get those quiet Sunday drives on deserted quality B roads...
The Clio, no doubt a quality tool, will be special for those less frequent moments when you lift the inside rear wheel round a tight bend, or get those quiet Sunday drives on deserted quality B roads...
Luke. said:
Morning you lovely bunch of PH'ers. Happy Friday to you all.
I'm test driving a 182 and a GTA tomorrow. But to be honest really like the look of both of them. They're similiar cost buy and insure. But got a feeling the 182 may be more fun, even though is about 70 BHP less. But feel the GTA is really that much more special.
What would you go for?
Is that a cheap 147 GTA or an expensive 182?? Hadn't realised they were the same money.I'm test driving a 182 and a GTA tomorrow. But to be honest really like the look of both of them. They're similiar cost buy and insure. But got a feeling the 182 may be more fun, even though is about 70 BHP less. But feel the GTA is really that much more special.
What would you go for?
I think, despite both being hatches they are totally different cars. In fact almost nothing alike at all.
So, you'll like or hate either car based on it's merits and your expectations. ie if you are wanting something chuckable, flighty and potential frugal, then the 182 is the winner. If you want something more GT like and upper market in side and style wise, with effortless grunt, then the GTA is going to be the ticket.
Neither will play the others game well though.
Thinking about it, I'd have thought them a slightly odd comparison. The 147 is not going to be good on fuel and I've read reports of low 20's and high teens. This is a world apart in fuel running costs from the Clio.
And lastly, as it's a question I feel I have to ask, do you actually need a FWD hatchback?
300bhp/ton said:
Is that a cheap 147 GTA or an expensive 182?? Hadn't realised they were the same money.
I think, despite both being hatches they are totally different cars. In fact almost nothing alike at all.
So, you'll like or hate either car based on it's merits and your expectations. ie if you are wanting something chuckable, flighty and potential frugal, then the 182 is the winner. If you want something more GT like and upper market in side and style wise, with effortless grunt, then the GTA is going to be the ticket.
Neither will play the others game well though.
Thinking about it, I'd have thought them a slightly odd comparison. The 147 is not going to be good on fuel and I've read reports of low 20's and high teens. This is a world apart in fuel running costs from the Clio.
And lastly, as it's a question I feel I have to ask, do you actually need a FWD hatchback?
The Clio's up for £4500 and the GTA £5600 so not exactly the same price, but not a world apart. To be honest, they've both got attributes I really apprecite, which is why I'm so confused on this one. The GTA really so much rarer though. Think there's only around 17 for sale in the country in the mo, the Clio on the other hand..I think, despite both being hatches they are totally different cars. In fact almost nothing alike at all.
So, you'll like or hate either car based on it's merits and your expectations. ie if you are wanting something chuckable, flighty and potential frugal, then the 182 is the winner. If you want something more GT like and upper market in side and style wise, with effortless grunt, then the GTA is going to be the ticket.
Neither will play the others game well though.
Thinking about it, I'd have thought them a slightly odd comparison. The 147 is not going to be good on fuel and I've read reports of low 20's and high teens. This is a world apart in fuel running costs from the Clio.
And lastly, as it's a question I feel I have to ask, do you actually need a FWD hatchback?
I had this dilema a few years ago.
It comes down to two things...... desired driving experience and... money.
The two cars are totally different but both acheived a massive grin on my face. However from purely day to day running costs i found i was doing early 20's (cough slightly less) whereas the Clio even when driven hard returned 26 mpg.
I prefered the nippy, happy jack russel of a car that is the 182 but if i had the same dilema today and wasnt a student i would go for the sexy italian hatch with a joyful sound and plush leather seats.
So what do you want to do with the car and how much money have you got to give to Shell
It comes down to two things...... desired driving experience and... money.
The two cars are totally different but both acheived a massive grin on my face. However from purely day to day running costs i found i was doing early 20's (cough slightly less) whereas the Clio even when driven hard returned 26 mpg.
I prefered the nippy, happy jack russel of a car that is the 182 but if i had the same dilema today and wasnt a student i would go for the sexy italian hatch with a joyful sound and plush leather seats.
So what do you want to do with the car and how much money have you got to give to Shell
doogz said:
SteveS Cup said:
They're exteremly different cars in my opinion.
The 147 was the most powerful FWD hot hatch... amazing engine and sound, italian styling etc.
The Clio is a precise little tool but I personally think they get too much praise.
Running the Alfa I'm guessing will cost you a lot more.
I'd have the alfa over the clio though.
Me too. And i've also owned a Clio sport (182)The 147 was the most powerful FWD hot hatch... amazing engine and sound, italian styling etc.
The Clio is a precise little tool but I personally think they get too much praise.
Running the Alfa I'm guessing will cost you a lot more.
I'd have the alfa over the clio though.
I've heard stories of them throwing timing belts as well as tantrums, but not sure if this is substantiated or not?
Luke. said:
The Clio's up for £4500 and the GTA £5600 so not exactly the same price, but not a world apart. To be honest, they've both got attributes I really apprecite, which is why I'm so confused on this one. The GTA really so much rarer though. Think there's only around 17 for sale in the country in the mo, the Clio on the other hand..
How many miles are you going to do a year in it?If you can afford the GTA and chances are it might be a little more fickle to live with. I think it's probably the better bet.
OK, the Clio is the sharper tool, and on those occasions when you are driving at 10/10ths it will be the better.
But even I can see the specialness of the GTA. Walking up to it will make you tingle inside, walking away from it will always demand that extra glance back over your shoulder at it.
I daresay even tootling along at 30mph in it will feel somewhat special. You'll get none of this with the Clio.
Luke. said:
The GTA really so much rarer though. Think there's only around 17 for sale in the country in the mo, the Clio on the other hand..
for me that seals the deal....a good car, perhaps not the greatest, but chuck in the fact there's VERY few of them, would make it special enough to rise above the 'qusalities' of it's competition... I feel the same about the Mk2 Focus RS, see so few(well I don't see many anyway) looks so good, has it's +ve and -ve points but so what.... people that know and like cars will doff their cap.. and why hopefully you wouldn't buy a car to impress others, it'a always nice to be noticed 
They might with a 182, but nowhere near as often...nowehere near.
Tuvra said:
Alfa Romeo 147 GTA, all day long (as long as running costs aint an issue).
I look at the 147 and think my god that's an awesome looking car (even non GTA versions), I see a clio sport I think, Ohh another Clio
3.7 AutoDelta is in my dream Garage!:
Forgot about the AutoDelta option. Might be something to think about once the intial loveliness wears off..I look at the 147 and think my god that's an awesome looking car (even non GTA versions), I see a clio sport I think, Ohh another Clio
3.7 AutoDelta is in my dream Garage!:
Luke. said:
Forgot about the AutoDelta option. Might be something to think about once the intial loveliness wears off..
I considered one, but finding one ready prepped was like looking for rocking horse s
t, I couldn't be arsed with buying a car, getting the body work done, sprayed, then the engine etc so it never materialised 
If a 3.7 came up with all the body work, I would definitely be interested. Although I have never seen one for sale and have no idea what they retail for...
I sold my 147 GTA about 18 months ago, and it's the only car I regret selling.
Sure, it won't be as precise as the Clio but I think it'll give you a bigger smile. Understeer can be a lot of fun with 250bhp and no diff, but I'd recommend either getting a 147 with a Q2 diff fitted or having one fitted as soon as you can (~£400). Keep on top of the cambelt and ancillaries, too (~£400).
Mine had an Autodelta carbon induction kit and a CSC exhaust fitted by the previous owner. The exhaust added a nice burble, but the induction kit drowned out the lovely V6 under hard acceleration, so keep that in mind if you consider any mods.
The interior is a beautiful place to be. I think options were quite substantial; Winter Pack includes heated seats and headlight washers, sunroof is an option, as are Xenons.
Quick cars too, 30mph to 150mph in 6th gear no problem. And I had no problem shaking off my mate in his R32, which sounded glorious on full chat next to me by the way
<Sigh> Off to the Classifieds I go.
Sure, it won't be as precise as the Clio but I think it'll give you a bigger smile. Understeer can be a lot of fun with 250bhp and no diff, but I'd recommend either getting a 147 with a Q2 diff fitted or having one fitted as soon as you can (~£400). Keep on top of the cambelt and ancillaries, too (~£400).
Mine had an Autodelta carbon induction kit and a CSC exhaust fitted by the previous owner. The exhaust added a nice burble, but the induction kit drowned out the lovely V6 under hard acceleration, so keep that in mind if you consider any mods.
The interior is a beautiful place to be. I think options were quite substantial; Winter Pack includes heated seats and headlight washers, sunroof is an option, as are Xenons.
Quick cars too, 30mph to 150mph in 6th gear no problem. And I had no problem shaking off my mate in his R32, which sounded glorious on full chat next to me by the way
<Sigh> Off to the Classifieds I go.
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