Train Passengers - WTF!
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GreatGranny

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9,519 posts

256 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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Working in our Leeds office for the next 2 months so decided its easier to go by train. Only 1hr 10min-ish Newark to Leeds.

Anyhow the 1715 Leeds to Newark yesterday was a little late so announcement that no seat reservations to speed up turnaround to make up time.

So got on train, 1/2 full so plenty of choice. I sat in the first spare seat. Old lady sat across the isle from me only for an arsey bloke to come along and state that she was in his seat and she would have to move. Old lady correctly stated that there were no seat reservations and plenty of spare seats. Matey wouldn't accept this eventhough myself and 2 other passengers backed up old lady. Old lady moved to avoid any more confrontation and arsey bloke sat down without any signs of guilt. What an arse!

This morning 0715 Newark to Leeds, very empty 5-6 people per carriage. Got on behind a bloke who had ticket in hand checking seat numbers, table with 2 lads on and one had put his bag on this blokes seat. Instead of just going to the next vacant table seat he just cleared his throat and stated that it was his seat!
Sat down only to move 5 mins later when he realised the train was lamost empty.

Being new to train commuting is this type of petty behaviour typical?

john_r

8,354 posts

301 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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This is what is known as 'general public'.

So either drive, or put up with it.



ETA: corrected fecking iPhone spelling changes!

Edited by john_r on Friday 7th October 14:14

obob

4,193 posts

224 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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GreatGranny said:
Working in our Leeds office for the next 2 months so decided its easier to go by train. Only 1hr 10min-ish Newark to Leeds.

Anyhow the 1715 Leeds to Newark yesterday was a little late so announcement that no seat reservations to speed up turnaround to make up time.

So got on train, 1/2 full so plenty of choice. I sat in the first spare seat. Old lady sat across the isle from me only for an arsey bloke to come along and state that she was in his seat and she would have to move. Old lady correctly stated that there were no seat reservations and plenty of spare seats. Matey wouldn't accept this eventhough myself and 2 other passengers backed up old lady. Old lady moved to avoid any more confrontation and arsey bloke sat down without any signs of guilt. What an arse!

This morning 0715 Newark to Leeds, very empty 5-6 people per carriage. Got on behind a bloke who had ticket in hand checking seat numbers, table with 2 lads on and one had put his bag on this blokes seat. Instead of just going to the next vacant table seat he just cleared his throat and stated that it was his seat!
Sat down only to move 5 mins later when he realised the train was lamost empty.

Being new to train commuting is this type of petty behaviour typical?
Yes but what would happen when loads of people get on at the next stop and then he is in someone else's seat. He will then have to get up and move to his allocated seat so he might as well sit there from the start.

ETA: I've not caught public transport since I learnt to drive. Apart from planes so I'm merely suggesting this may be the case.

STW2010

5,919 posts

192 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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I regularly go to London for meetings, so will normally do either the journey in or out of London at peak times. The amount of absolute retards is unbelievable, especially at St Pancras station on the way home.

To summarise, what you have described is typical of a lot of the miserable bds that travel by trains.

Vron

2,545 posts

239 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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Book well in advance and go First for the same price. Much nicer.

zac510

5,546 posts

236 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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It's petty to accuse these people of being petty over such an insignificant event in life.

GreatGranny

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9,519 posts

256 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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obob said:
Yes but what would happen when loads of people get on at the next stop and then he is in someone else's seat. He will then have to get up and move to his allocated seat so he might as well sit there from the start.

ETA: I've not caught public transport since I learnt to drive. Apart from planes so I'm merely suggesting this may be the case.
That would be ok but on the first train mentioned all seat reservations were cancelled and on the 2nd train his seat was about the only reserved seat in the whole of the carriage.

MitchT

17,157 posts

239 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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Similarly odd behaviour...

I was on a train from London to Leeds, sat in a nearly empty carriage. I decided to go to the buffet car for some food and noticed, on the way, that the vestibule areas at the ends of the carriages were full of people sat on the floor as they might if the train was full. I told them that there were loads of seats available but they just looked at me like I was strange!

GreatGranny

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256 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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zac510 said:
It's petty to accuse these people of being petty over such an insignificant event in life.
Ok, maybe I'm being petty but the first bloke was just being an arse especially as he was late 40s, looked reasonably respectable so should have, a) listened to the numerous announcements re. reservations and, b) shown a little more respect to the old lady.

Its early days so by end of next week these things will no doubt pass me by.

Driving isn't a option really as it will take me a lot longer and my poor car needs a rest after a year doing 500 mile per week commute from Lincolnshire to Sheffield.

garycat

5,407 posts

240 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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john_r said:
This is what is knows as 'general public'.

So either drive, or put up with it.
Indeed. The main problem with "Public Transport" is the "public" part of it, oh and sometimes the "transport" part can piss you off too.

Neil H

15,418 posts

281 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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The first bloke in undoubtedly a cock, second bloke is possibly a cock, but as mentioned sometimes the next stop will be megabusy so it's better to be in your reserved seat. If there was lots of non-reserved seats then he is definitely a cock.

Famous Graham

26,553 posts

255 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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I often travelled from Edinburgh to Windsor via London and the amount of people who completely passed by all the reserved seats without looking at the tickets was quite impressive.

So you'd end up with loads of empty seats for, say, Edinburgh to York and a different set of empty ones for York to London. Only takes a second to glance at the ticket and swipe the seat if it's free for the first part of the journey. Then repeat just before that stop.

Streps

2,457 posts

196 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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This morning my friend was on a train to birmingham when 2 people attacked him
and stole his trainer.

Only one trainer FFS.



Trains are full of dheads

GreatGranny

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256 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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Oops duplicate post.

Edited by GreatGranny on Friday 7th October 12:42

rev-erend

21,624 posts

314 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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I'm a regular London commuter - Seat..

You are lucky !

Buster73

5,627 posts

183 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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I've been on a Saturday journey Durham to KX when the train company has removed a carriage completely.

Bugger me you want to see the confusion of people looking for seats in a carriage that does not exist.

I even looked for the cameras thinking it was a piss take.

Only in Britain.

BrabusMog

21,801 posts

216 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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I'd hate to do it on a busy train, I do a reverse commute from Clapham Junction to Farnborough Main so I always get a seat but I do feel sorry for the people on trains that have to stand all the way from Fleet eek It used to be worse when I lived in Blackheath and I used to love the arsey people at Lewisham shouting for people to move down the carriage when there was clearly no room.

What I find weird is people who are on their own drinking beer on the train. Fair enough if it's a one-off journey to a gig or something or maybe even if you're with a few pals, but when you see blokes in suits enjoying a luke-warm can of Fosters you do think to yourself, "hmmmm, what a fking weirdo!"

And ticket guards are a rare fking breed, I tell you! I think you have to pass some kind of test that certifies you are a miserable bd or you are completely eccentric! One of them was wearing a badge that said "Prefect" the other day wobble


M@verick

976 posts

241 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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MitchT said:
Similarly odd behaviour...

I was on a train from London to Leeds, sat in a nearly empty carriage. I decided to go to the buffet car for some food and noticed, on the way, that the vestibule areas at the ends of the carriages were full of people sat on the floor as they might if the train was full. I told them that there were loads of seats available but they just looked at me like I was strange!
I regularly used to sit on the floor in these areas when travelling on trains. I use my leather folio case to sit on such that I don't bugger up my suit trousers. Often this is the only way to get some space on the train (stretch out legs, not have to listen to someones mobile phone conversation or sound leakage from their Ipod headphones, or deal with any of the miscreants the OP describes).

If you travel on the Basingstoke to Waterloo line as I used to, youll get a seat on a peak time commuter train around one in ten times according to my experience. The trains come up from Portsmouth, Exeter, or Southampton - so all are well and truly rammed by the time they reach Basingstoke, and begin your 49 minute trudge into the smoke. Still its only 48 quid return eh. mad - Glad I dont live there anymore !, these days I can travel from Alton where the line begins hence always seats.

Hate public transport, not from the point of view of being a toff (im not) but simply because it doesnt work as it should, and yet there is no viable alternative.

R.

hidetheelephants

36,183 posts

223 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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The seat reservations have no legal standing anyway, if you sit in someone's reserved seat the guard won't do anything beyond ask you to move. If I had to commute regularly I'd probably take a stick or wear a fake leg cast and blag a seat!

The train companys are bds, I travel regularly between Glasgow and Aberdeen and it always seems to be a 3 coach job rather than 6 and it's regularly packed right from the start. If the train prior has been cancelled it's a nightmare; I've had to stand for the full 3+hrs once. I hate public transport.

carreauchompeur

18,328 posts

234 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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People are utter, utter arses when there are a few of them.

Particularly with busy-but-not-rammed trains. I'll make a point of seeking out the person who either sits on the outside of two seats, or puts their bag on the seat next to them, and sit there. I'm not sitting on the fking floor because you've got personal space issues!

To clarify, this is when there are not many seats free wink