Insurance for 17 Year Old
Insurance for 17 Year Old
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blueg33

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44,557 posts

247 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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I have been looking at the costs of insuring Bluejunior when he is a student aged 18 (currently 16)

Costs are huge, but I wondered if i could mitigate the costs by buying an old motorbike and insuring it in his name. He will then build up a history of no claims which I thought may be taken into account when he insures his first car.

(He won't be using the bike as it isn't working)

I am interested to know whether this is doable, and legal. What do people think?

mblade123

533 posts

215 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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Dont think car and bike NCB is transferable

MrAdaam

1,094 posts

189 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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If you use the same insurer for a car as you do this bike, sometimes the NCB can carry across. Best people to ask would be potential insurers though.

paulrussell

2,293 posts

184 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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Just buy a old car so it can be made roadworthy. It'll be cheap to insure plus it'll give your son the opportunity to learn how cars work.

blueg33

Original Poster:

44,557 posts

247 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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paulrussell said:
Just buy a old car so it can be made roadworthy. It'll be cheap to insure plus it'll give your son the opportunity to learn how cars work.
I would except I have no where to store one and I wouldn't be able to insure him from the age of 16.

The cost of car insurance for young people is madness! No wonder so many don't bother.

franki68

11,399 posts

244 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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basically irrespective of how cheap the car to be insured is,for a 17 year old male to be insured round here (manchester)is £2500 ,staggering.

blueg33

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44,557 posts

247 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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Much the same here in a quiet cotswold village! I can buy a decent 1.2 Clio or similar for £1500 but insurance costs nearly twice that

A13

294 posts

185 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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I said this in another thread earlier. I know it depends largely on where you live, but i live in Sussex and my insurance since i passed 4 years ago has been like this:

17 - Renault Clio 1.2 - £1,100
18 - VW Golf 1.4 - £850
20 - Audi A3 2.0 - £600
21 - Audi A3 1.8T - £600

SteveS Cup

1,996 posts

183 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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nomis88

148 posts

228 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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Raize

1,476 posts

202 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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Just drive uninsured or don't drive.

duffman

269 posts

225 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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This is pretty shocking I'm 24 now and I dont remember it being this bad when I was 17, can't you just add him on as a named driver for a the time til hes older?

A13

294 posts

185 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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^ Really does depend on the insurer too.

I had my old A3 (2.0 FSI) with Aviva for £599 (12 weeks free) - went to change the car to my new 1.8T and they wouldn't insurer me because you need to be 21 to be insured on it. I wasn't 21 when i took out the policy originally (even though i'm 21 now?!) - i just cancelled it.

Ran a comparison and the quotes for my 1.8T, with 4 years NCB and GF and mum named drivers came in around £600 again, with the Admiral group of companies (Admiral, Bell, Elephant etc.) Next best was near on £1,000...

It's really hard for new drivers, sure you can be a named driver but you also need to build up your own NCD. (Not the direct line scam of 'named driver discount' which counts for nothing!)

blueg33

Original Poster:

44,557 posts

247 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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duffman said:
This is pretty shocking I'm 24 now and I dont remember it being this bad when I was 17, can't you just add him on as a named driver for a the time til hes older?
He will be the main driver though. He will be named on our other car policies but he will need to learn in a manual and its not going to be the Tuscan! So if I buy him a car it may as well be insurance in his name.

Raize

1,476 posts

202 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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blueg33 said:
He will be the main driver though. He will be named on our other car policies but he will need to learn in a manual and its not going to be the Tuscan! So if I buy him a car it may as well be insurance in his name.
You don't buy a car to learn in. Learning is done through lessons. For the price of provisional insurance on any you can get hundreds of lessons.

blueg33

Original Poster:

44,557 posts

247 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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Raize said:
You don't buy a car to learn in. Learning is done through lessons. For the price of provisional insurance on any you can get hundreds of lessons.
That is true, but I want him to have access to a manual car so that he can get extra practice with me. When I learnt to drive, I drove 1000's of miles going to the South Coast from the Midlands every weekend. That mileage builds up great experience that lessons cannot.

Jamirecluse

465 posts

174 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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Raize said:
You don't buy a car to learn in. Learning is done through lessons. For the price of provisional insurance on any you can get hundreds of lessons.
I've paid £240 for 10 hours of lessons.Under £650 buys 6 months insurance on my corsa,which easily allows you enough time to practice for a test.Both of my parents have been driving for 30 years so driving with them is useful in between lessons.
Doing it yourself makes financial sense and you can get lessons to tidy up any faults you pick up.

otolith

65,167 posts

227 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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Raize said:
You don't buy a car to learn in. Learning is done through lessons. For the price of provisional insurance on any you can get hundreds of lessons.
Teaching is done in lessons. Learning is done over a much longer period. The more practice you can get, the better.

FreiWild

405 posts

179 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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Raize said:
Just drive uninsured or don't drive.
great advice right there rolleyes

Rostfritt

3,098 posts

174 months

Friday 7th October 2011
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otolith said:
Teaching is done in lessons. Learning is done over a much longer period. The more practice you can get, the better.
You only need to be taught to pass your test, you can learn after. Otherwise you fail because you learnt some bad habits. Also driving lessons are quite cheap. Mine were about £18 an hour 7 years ago which when you consider the running costs, fuel and instructors time is quite good. I do wonder sometimes how difficult it must be to make a living doing that.