Misfire
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Spid

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381 posts

266 months

Saturday 8th October 2011
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Did a trackday at Spa on Monday, the Ult would do 3 laps happily then started to misfire/cutout. Let it cool down it would be fine for another 3 laps. Going to wire in a fuel pressure sensor to the dash to see if that's dropping. Any other ideas of what could be causing this?

F.C.

3,899 posts

232 months

Saturday 8th October 2011
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Poor heat management, you answered your own question really.

spatz

1,783 posts

210 months

Saturday 8th October 2011
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if you do that maybe add a temp probe as well would be really interesting !

Spid

Original Poster:

381 posts

266 months

Saturday 8th October 2011
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Just was wondering what was getting hot to cause this?

F.C.

3,899 posts

232 months

Saturday 8th October 2011
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Put it on a rolling road and get someone who really knows about fuel and ignition to check things are ok there.

Spid

Original Poster:

381 posts

266 months

Saturday 8th October 2011
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I hadn't thought of that, when it was first put on the rolling road they removed the rear clip. I was going to have a fiddle and take it up Brands and see if it was any better. Good call thanks

MarkWebb

983 posts

241 months

Saturday 8th October 2011
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I suspect you will find fuel pressure dropping due to heat in fuel as I did in the past. I have managed to cure it so far by pressurising the lp side of the fuel system to about 6 psi. This is to try to make sure that the suction side of the hp pump gets fuel and not boiling fuel. I was at spa as well as you know. The most I managed was 6 laps due to oil temps getting a bit high. No problems with fuel pressure though.

F.C.

3,899 posts

232 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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Heat wrapping fuel lines, protecting fuel tanks, with reflective film or paint (NOT black!!) ceramic coated exhausts, heat shielding on HT leads etc, will go a long way to improve your heat management.
Racing teams fight to keep the fuel cool to (a) improve the density and (b) to get more fuel in the tanks.

gyroplane

42 posts

202 months

Tuesday 11th October 2011
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Have you read macgtech's writup on their recent experience at the Silverstone 24hr?

http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f...

Lots of discussion about LS7 misfire (with potentially devastating results), possibly related to heat (or fuel?).

-Sky

Spid

Original Poster:

381 posts

266 months

Tuesday 11th October 2011
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Interesting, might be worth trying the regulator before the fuel rails

F.C.

3,899 posts

232 months

Tuesday 11th October 2011
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Get rid of the problem, if you are having to stop and wait for it to cool you have a heat issue, upping fuel pressure may well improve things initially but you will generate even more heat, something WILL give in the end.

MarkWebb

983 posts

241 months

Tuesday 11th October 2011
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Whats the problem with my solution? It is recommended by Kinsler in this article http://www.kinsler.com/Cat_32_Pgs/Cat_32_4_09_Pg_1... Just do not set pressure valve on lp side to more than the lp pump can provide or you will be stuck with vapour. A small hole as a restictor was suggested because vapour will pass easily but liquid fuel will not so creating the required pressure in lp side.

F.C.

3,899 posts

232 months

Tuesday 11th October 2011
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Nothing wrong, just getting rid of the heat problem is better practice, less heat = better fuel density.
If your fuel is getting hot cool it.
use a small cooler on the return to the tanks.

Spid

Original Poster:

381 posts

266 months

Tuesday 11th October 2011
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Its in bits, going to get exhaust coated use some heat shielding on the tanks and fuel lines. Also going to try to to add a bit of pressure to the swirl pot. Mark what do you use to do this?

Spid

Original Poster:

381 posts

266 months

Tuesday 11th October 2011
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Its in bits, going to get exhaust coated use some heat shielding on the tanks and fuel lines. Also going to try to to add a bit of pressure to the swirl pot. Mark what do you use to do this?

Spid

Original Poster:

381 posts

266 months

Tuesday 11th October 2011
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Its in bits, going to get exhaust coated use some heat shielding on the tanks and fuel lines. Also going to try to to add a bit of pressure to the swirl pot. Mark what do you use to do this?

Spid

Original Poster:

381 posts

266 months

Tuesday 11th October 2011
quotequote all
Its in bits, going to get exhaust coated use some heat shielding on the tanks and fuel lines. Also going to try to to add a bit of pressure to the swirl pot. Mark what do you use to do this?

Spid

Original Poster:

381 posts

266 months

Tuesday 11th October 2011
quotequote all
Its in bits, going to get exhaust coated use some heat shielding on the tanks and fuel lines. Also going to try to to add a bit of pressure to the swirl pot. Mark what do you use to do this?

Spid

Original Poster:

381 posts

266 months

Tuesday 11th October 2011
quotequote all
Its in bits, going to get exhaust coated use some heat shielding on the tanks and fuel lines. Also going to try to to add a bit of pressure to the swirl pot. Mark what do you use to do this?

Spid

Original Poster:

381 posts

266 months

Tuesday 11th October 2011
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Its in bits, going to get exhaust coated use some heat shielding on the tanks and fuel lines. Also going to try to to add a bit of pressure to the swirl pot. Mark what do you use to do this?