Videos from recent Donny track day in the C2S
Discussion
Hi there
Took a mates 997 C2S on a trackday at Donnington on the national circuit. Am very impressed with the C2S and as the day got on I certainly got faster too the point where I was keeping up and eventually passing one of the GT3's though I did notice it was on road tyres and not the usual corsas or cup tyres, whereas the other GT3 was quicker but it did have cups. Oh just to clarify I am not saying or even suggesting a C2S is quicker or even as quick as a GT3 as it is not. But they are not worls apart and remember his C2S has aerokit and X51 and which certainly help reduce the gap.
Took a mates 997 C2S on a trackday at Donnington on the national circuit. Am very impressed with the C2S and as the day got on I certainly got faster too the point where I was keeping up and eventually passing one of the GT3's though I did notice it was on road tyres and not the usual corsas or cup tyres, whereas the other GT3 was quicker but it did have cups. Oh just to clarify I am not saying or even suggesting a C2S is quicker or even as quick as a GT3 as it is not. But they are not worls apart and remember his C2S has aerokit and X51 and which certainly help reduce the gap.

Edited by Gibbo205 on Friday 11th November 19:41
gadgetJunky72 said:
Hey Gibbo,
Great vids. What did you use and how did you mount the camera?
Cheers
Pav
Iphone4 using a mount.Great vids. What did you use and how did you mount the camera?
Cheers
Pav
Software is witness which gives gps/speed etc only about 1s behind as on back straight I see circa 126-128mph on speedo.
Or you can just use iPhones own software for HD recording.

Nice one Gibbo - you can really see your confidence in cornering speeds get better and quite quickly too!
You should be more assertive under braking though - I did learn at the free OPC clinic Saturday, that gentle braking actually wears out the rear brakes far quicker than the front owing to the natural rear bias of the brake setup, so being a bit harder on the brakes will balance out the braking effort.
I tried this on the way home, and you can actually feel the front brakes coming to you the more you lean on them - sweet
You should be more assertive under braking though - I did learn at the free OPC clinic Saturday, that gentle braking actually wears out the rear brakes far quicker than the front owing to the natural rear bias of the brake setup, so being a bit harder on the brakes will balance out the braking effort.
I tried this on the way home, and you can actually feel the front brakes coming to you the more you lean on them - sweet

STiG911 said:
Nice one Gibbo - you can really see your confidence in cornering speeds get better and quite quickly too!
You should be more assertive under braking though - I did learn at the free OPC clinic Saturday, that gentle braking actually wears out the rear brakes far quicker than the front owing to the natural rear bias of the brake setup, so being a bit harder on the brakes will balance out the braking effort.
I tried this on the way home, and you can actually feel the front brakes coming to you the more you lean on them - sweet
Thanks for the tip mate, I've been braking early and not that hard as did not want to give them too much of a pounding as its my daily car and well it gets well looked after too.You should be more assertive under braking though - I did learn at the free OPC clinic Saturday, that gentle braking actually wears out the rear brakes far quicker than the front owing to the natural rear bias of the brake setup, so being a bit harder on the brakes will balance out the braking effort.
I tried this on the way home, and you can actually feel the front brakes coming to you the more you lean on them - sweet

Though I shall give this a try next time I am there.

if you have a PC with two screens - try starting these two at the same time . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EENeKJ9H5sk @ 0:06
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6Vhgt4mtww @ 2:41
khushy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EENeKJ9H5sk @ 0:06
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6Vhgt4mtww @ 2:41
khushy
khushy said:
if you have a PC with two screens - try starting these two at the same time . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EENeKJ9H5sk @ 0:06
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6Vhgt4mtww @ 2:41
khushy
There is a youtube program that loads up 2 files at same time (comparison)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EENeKJ9H5sk @ 0:06
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6Vhgt4mtww @ 2:41
khushy
dontdobends said:
Nice vids Gibbo,the iphone cam was very good nice lines but you just coast a little before you brake,2nd gear would be better out of the last corner before start/finish,just feed the gas in earlier and harder use the weight of rear engine
Yeah I coast on purpose, the intention was for smoothness and being gentle on the brakes, but am going to try as Stig has suggested.
In regards to dropping to 2nd gear for the last chicane I am not too sure, the extra time taken to down change and the fact at corner apex its nearly on the limiter, only 68-70mph in 2nd in C2S it seems hardly worthwhile especially as it means two extra gear changes and is harsher on the car/drivetrain. TheGoose and other guys who have raced their all say the same the last chicane is best in 3rd, earlier on full power and two gear changes saved.
I have tried 2nd especially when chasing something out of that corner to make the overtake earlier and certainly get better acceleration out of the corner so maybe it is marginally faster, but as I've done barely any laps with changing down to 2nd with no traffic I have no lap times to verify if it is quicker or not.
khushy said:
I love Donnington - Redbridge/Craner Curves/Starkeys Bridge - sexy as hell!
140mph down Starkeys Straight after Coppice - before hauling it into the Esses onto the start/finish straight - fantastic fun!
khushy
It looks so much faster on the bike and 10x scarier, is that 140mph on the bike then on back straight, best I've seen is about 128mph in the car on speedo. 140mph down Starkeys Straight after Coppice - before hauling it into the Esses onto the start/finish straight - fantastic fun!
khushy

I received some tuition a few years back when I had the 3.4 Cup, the top tip from numerous Croft/Cadwell/Bedford instructors, who also happened to be Cup drivers, was to trail brake upto and into the apex (doesn't have to be left foot) to keep the balance, then power on immediately out.
I found it saved being too aggressive on the brakes (ie more progressive) and you could balance the car beautifully with practise
Here's an idea as to what they mean http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEPZiZWij6I&fea...
I found it saved being too aggressive on the brakes (ie more progressive) and you could balance the car beautifully with practise

Here's an idea as to what they mean http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEPZiZWij6I&fea...
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